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for those who refuse to see the film because "do not want MM to benefit financially" see it here free (not piracy -- authorized by MM) http://insanefilms.com/?p=413

Where could I find out about MM deliberately twisting facts?

Look, when I want to make a point stick in the political gap, I generally do not use Rush Limbaugh as my source, even if I think it's a credible source. It doesn't matter what I think; it matters what the person I'm trying to convince thinks. No matter how bad you want it to be so, MM is not a credible source. ~faith, Timothy. MM apparently is out of favor with many of the people who have responded in this thread -- and if they wish to claim that MM is not a credible source -- that is their perogative. However, I will say that I prefer to approach this with an open mind. I have not seen the movie yet. I'm willing to digest the message. The message can be spun by the messenger; but facts can be checked. Would you simply dismiss as jingoism the fact that a child died from complications of a rotten tooth because MM told you that? MM didn't tell me that -- I read it in either the Chicago Tribune or the NY Times a few months ago. If the boy had had early preventative care -- he would be alive today. The trailer I've seen of Sicko consists of interviews of precisely such people who have had bad experiences with their health insurance coverage. Are they automatically lying bastards because they appeared on his film? Cut me a freaking break Reminds me of a documentary I saw a few years back on the making of the Graceland album by Paul Simon. An African American music fan was quoted as saying that it was a real shame that it had been Paul Simon who went to Africa and "discovered" Ladysmith Black Mambazo ... that it would have been so much better if Stevie Wonder had done that instead. I'm not here to defend MM. He simply is the person who had the idea, the gumption, the werewithall, to bring to light this issue. If Rush Limbaugh had produced the movie and had been responsible for the exact same trailers and movie -- I would be applauding Rush Limbaugh! This coming from a person who believes RL is a blowhard hipocrite drug addict. Oh yeah, and my other post in this thread was sarcasm.

Hi, could you explain this to me? I have a little trouble following what you are saying. I'm interested because I am a Florida graduate who has applied to CA BON for IPN and RN license. I am awaiting to hear word from CA BON. Now, what are you saying? That it will take longer for the CA BON to get back to me because I am out of state graduate? But I have some sort of advantage because California grads take the test before the BON gets their final transcript? I don't follow. Help me understand. I really appreciate the time you take to clear this up for me. Thanks

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love your sentence structure!

why is that advisable?

Short answer: it took me four years (from May 03 to May 07) to earn an AA in general education and a BSN. Long answer: (may induce nausea or drowsiness) I quit work (a really nice gig -- but that's another story) to enter this pursuit full time. From the get go I knew I wanted a bachelor's, so I did not look at all at ADN programs (first mistake). I was 34 years old and only had 8 college credits that were then nearly 10 years old. 4 credits in Physics and 4 credits in Calculus. The calculus covered my math prerequisite. The physics credits were kind of irrelevant. In less than 2 years at my local community college I completed the prereq's that I was told would articulate to the state university system here in florida; however, I was unable to compete to secure entrance at the state university nearest my hometown: science GPA was flagged: 3.40 (needed a 3.60; 2nd mistake: should have applied to all the state universities). I went nonetheless to the state U nearest to me and I asked them what I could take to compete for a spot in the nursing college and they had (and suggested I take) three nursing courses open to all students, which I dutifully took and earned two A's and an A-. I also took that semester the first semester of general chemistry to bone up on the introductory chemistry I took to earn my AA; and I also earned an A there. That was Spring 2005. There was nothing to do for the summer semester, really, but I gathered that this time I was going to cast my net really wide in sending out applications to as many nursing schools as possible -- and I found out that I would have to take other prerequisites to compete for entrance to other nursing schools so in the summer of 2005 I took Ethics and another Humanities class (one school was labeling one of my AA humanities a social science class and declared I was therefore deficient) and Biology I. I got straight As except for the 1 credit biology lab: a C. (I just couldn't get into the lab portion of it -- UGH!) So for fall 2005 I applied to all the state universities as well as Drexel U in Philadlephia and University of Miami, and I finally decided to go ahead and hedge my bets and applied to the ADN program since one of my teachers told me I could easily come back to Florida State and use my ADN to leverage a BSN by taking two or three more classes. During that summer I got the bad news that I did not get accepted to any of the 9 state universities I applied to. I did get accepted to Drexel U in Philadelphia and to the University of Miami and to the community college ADN program. Why didn't I get into my state U? I went to the dean to ask him and he told me that I had a competitive application, but he pointed out that the essay portion of the application I had completed by handwriting. He said this was just not a good thing to do. HUH??? Okay -- let's call this mistake number 3 -- but really! I asked him -- Is my handwriting legible? (I have beautiful handwriting folks) Yes, it's legible. Did I make any grammatical errors? (again... nope -- I am a meticulous writer!) Did I misspell any words? (no, no, no). Fine, that's the lame excuse I got for not making it to their nursing program. Of the three schools that accepted me -- the CC ADN program, Drexel and U of Miami -- I did not like any of these three options! ADN program was going to take me as long to finish as the BSN program. Okay, it's really a competition between U of Miami and ADN program since Drexel -- I then discovered took a year longer than every other BSN program out there. In my heart I wanted my BSN though, I couldn't see the point of putting two years into an ADN program when I could put two years into a BSN program. Okay; the big difference: U of M costs a fortune! I decided to go to U of M. I went straight through the U of M nursing program finishing in two years (graduated May of 2007). I am eligible to sit for NCLEX now. However, I am 69,000 dollars in the hole because I had to take out these massive student loans to deal with $30,000 per year tuition (just went up to $35,000 per year) as well as living in overpriced and over-rated Miami. The greatest regret of my life is not having taken the cheaper route (ADN) which would have done for me what my BSN education has done for me: make me eligible to sit for NCLEX. THERE IS NO APPRECIABLE DIFFERENCE IN PAY BETWEEN ADN Vs BSN PREPARED NURSES. Because I went the BSN route I now will have the pleasure of going to work with the obligation of having to repay these massive loans. Okay.... I'm over my little fit. I'll be alright. I just came back from a trip to California where I interviewed with three different hospitals and all three offered me a job. I am picking the hospital which has offered me an in house path to earn my master's in nursing and also has a student loan forgiveness program. I will be working in the cardiothoracic ICU after a 5 month Versant training program. I'll be in LA before the end of July and my new employer is picking up my relocation costs.

How Un-American of you to hold up France, of all places as an example to us. Don't you know we are in a war against the terrorists? I bet you don't even have a ribbon magnet on your SUV! You probably are aiding and abetting illegal aliens too! You are the reason Taco Bell had to pay an extra penny per bushel to those illegal aliens and forego giving their CEO an extra million dollars last year! Shame on you!

Okay, first thing I wish I had known about nursing is that the ultimate goal in nursing is to earn the RN certification. Therefore, it doesn't matter all that much whether you go to a 4 year private university or a 4 year public university or a community college or to a diploma program (yes, I do believe those are still in existence). Apply to as many programs as possible, since it's really difficult to get in due to the sheer number of people who have "discovered" nursing. Some people will argue that the BSN is better than the Associate degree in nursing. That will be true only if you care to pursue management positions or perhaps other niche positions like Certified Flight Nurse; in any case; with your ADN you can usually find a program that will give you a lot of credit towards their BSN. You can do that when and if you decide that's what you need to do. I made the mistake of applying to only 4 programs; I could've applied to more, but there were problems with meeting token requisites (I mean to say that perhaps one program was asking for something a little unusual -- perhaps it would've required a little more effort on my part). Anyway, none of the public universities I applied to accepted me (I can't get over that -- but I guess my science GPA was just shy of what all the other succesful applicants had). Anyway I was stuck (so I thought) between going to a program out of state that lasts an extra year (Drexel University in Philadelphia) and the University of Miami (overpriced !!!). How I regret now (I'm weeks away from graduation) on coming to UM. I am tens of thousands in the hole. They put a nice financial aid package together -- that is -- it looked nice -- but it had to be looked at in relation to the total cost -- you have to think about the fact that (in my case) I still was responsible for half the tuition bill (1/2 of 70K over 2 years = 35K) plus my living expenses -- which I didn't anticipate would be so exorbitatnt for Miami. Oh man, that's a thread unto itself there -- so Miami is incredibly overrated and overpriced and likewise the UM. What I would've done if I could -- at the time I was accepted to UM I was attending FSU in Tallahassee. i would have applied to Tallahassee Community College, gotten my ADN (way way waaaay cheaper), then perhaps right away or perhaps after getting some RN experience; I would've transferred to FSU to get my BSN -- I found out later that would only have meant taking 3 or 4 courses. What a dumas I am.

OP quite likely can put together an outstanding resume in light of previous relevant experience. But I have a question to all perusers here.... I am in the same boat as OP (anticipate graduating in May 07) but I don't have the relevant work experience; in fact, my previous work experience consists of 15 years of working as an electronics technician with several interesting highlights that I can hardly bring myself from removing from my resume (such as gaining and securing unescorted access to various nuclear power plants and travelling to Colombia to deliver a technical lecture -- wholly in Spanish -- as part of a successful sales effort). What approach could I take to show that while I am a new grad with no clinical experience; I am a mature worker with a set of skills that may be transferable to this new career? I would be willing to share my resume to anyone who would care to have a look see.

Don't make the mistake I made: instructor set me up like a bowling pin when she asked me: "You're not enjoying yourself here, are you?" Naturally, my knee jerk response was: "No!" wrong anwser!

send me your email; I'd like to share a paper I wrote. you could let me know what you think of it. [email protected]

these are NOT two mutually exclusive things -- I certainly never implied that. I was merely reminding someone that the editor needs not apologize for printing someone's letter. In the marketplace of ideas, as in this thread, it is obvious that faulty ideas are quickly identified as such. That couldn't have been done without some very thoughtful replies.