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Joint Commission is a Joke...

My Hospital has been preparing for the Joint Commission inspection. Frankly, it's pathetic. No saline locks in our pockets, no IV buckets left out on counters, nothing closer than 18 inches from ceiling. And, no concern regarding nurse/patient ratios of course.

Another self-important, entrenched, bureaucratic entity, that is impeding us in our work. People who have spent their time in academia, studying theory that was developed outside of the space/time continuum, in front of a computer spreadsheet. God save us all.

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first of your hospital should be doing all these things JC or not.The buckets and saline locks are good nursing practice. nothing closer than 18 inches is a fire hazard and infection control issue. it is sad you are working in an unsafe setting and your management only puts on a dog and pony show, that is not what JC is about.

first of your hospital should be doing all these things JC or not.The buckets and saline locks are good nursing practice. nothing closer than 18 inches is a fire hazard and infection control issue. it is sad you are working in an unsafe setting and your management only puts on a dog and pony show that is not what JC is about.[/quote']

I agree to an extent, but why does the JC seem more concerned with saline flushes in the pocket than issues like nurse:patient ratios?

I agree to an extent, but why does the JC seem more concerned with saline flushes in the pocket than issues like nurse:patient ratios?

As someone who has been on the frontline with JC , they are concerned about nurse patient ratios and hospitals do get dinged for not meeting this measure.

As someone who has been on the frontline with JC they are concerned about nurse patient ratios and hospitals do get dinged for not meeting this measure.[/quote']

What measure is that?

We aren't supposed to care flushes in our pockets? Even wrapped?

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The JC wants staffing level to be safe. However your idea of safe and their idea of safe are 2 different things The JC looks at the staffing plan which is considered safe by minimal standards and then they look at facility compliance with their set forth plan. While the JC is a pain in the rear...and we ALL know that facilities spiff up for just those couple of days...trust me when I say... be thankful someone is watching the hen house. Even if it is a well fed fox.

What measure is that?[/quote

Proper staffing with the right skill set.

We aren't supposed to care flushes in our pockets? Even wrapped?[/quote

No medication should be in your pocket, also what temperature is is being stored in your pocket?

We aren't supposed to care flushes in our pockets? Even wrapped?

Nope. They consider them a medication and no medications are allowed in pockets. At my hospital that includes alcohol wipes.

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OP, how did you arrive at the conclusion that Joint Commission surveyors are all "people who have spent their time in academia, studying theory that was developed outside the time/space continuum, in front of a computer spreadsheet"?

If joint commission was serious about safety they would not give hospitals a potential window for visits. They wou

ld arrive unannounced and on night shift. I don't think a hospital in America would pass an unannounced inspection.

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OP, how did you arrive at the conclusion that Joint Commission surveyors are all "people who have spent their time in academia, studying theory that was developed outside the time/space continuum, in front of a computer spreadsheet"?

The surveyors are the foot soldiers. I'm referring to the people who develop rules like no saline flushes in pockets.

That edict totally lacks commonsense. It causes inconvenience for the nurse, and chisels another chip of time from patient care. Death by a thousand cuts is the end result of these types of rules.

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