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Falls

I worked at a retirement home for 18 years. I was since terminated. One of the reasons is that I had two falls happen at the same time and apparently didn’t handle it up to standards. I quickly assessed one woman and moved her and got her up. I then brought her to her room for further assessment by which I saw a cut on her head. I then sent her out to the hospital. I didn’t get a chance to take her BP or do a neuro assessment. I moved her and got her up without doing them first. Would you say that was negligent? I sent her to the hospital where they could do all the tests?

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Also, an older nurse with clearly more experience, who is retired from there now, did not do neurovitals on any one either. So that tells you how much things have changed in “nursing 101” . Sorry we never did them unless the Dr ordered it or the hospital. I simply did what i have always done for the entire 18 years. You automatically just do what you have always done. I guess I need to start memorizing all the policies. Not easy but...

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I would have to go back through all the posts and reread them all, but I don’t believe any of the posters who “insulted and criticized” you, myself included, said we thought you should have been fired. At all. But you asked for opinions on what was/wasn’t done, and that’s what people were responding to.

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There was one person who responded and said it was “negligent” and grounds for termination. Maybe you didn’t but yes I got that.

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“It is clear, that despite having a policy for 5 years, you failed to meet the expectations of the facility. For that reason alone, you can be found to be negligent and justifiably fired.

The remaining details are irrelevant, truly. If you performed your assessment per the policy, they would not have grounds to fire you. You should practice to the highest standard, not to the standard of those around you. “

Thats what one person said that my termination was “justified” .

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2 minutes ago, Marija1 said:

“It is clear, that despite having a policy for 5 years, you failed to meet the expectations of the facility. For that reason alone, you can be found to be negligent and justifiably fired.

The remaining details are irrelevant, truly. If you performed your assessment per the policy, they would not have grounds to fire you. You should practice to the highest standard, not to the standard of those around you. “

Thats what one person said that my termination was “justified” .

Correct. It appears they are answering your original question, that yes the facility can use that to justifiably terminate you since you broke protocol. They didn’t say that you should have been terminated.

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You are right.

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However, I don’t think here in Canada that they had “just cause” for dismissal. They actually have to explain to you what the issue is and provide ways for you to improve. They didn’t do any of that.

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17 minutes ago, Marija1 said:

However, I don’t think here in Canada that they had “just cause” for dismissal. They actually have to explain to you what the issue is and provide ways for you to improve. They didn’t do any of that.

Since you are unionized they do have to use progressive discipline. If they want to fire you, there has to be a paper trail. If being fired was the first time you heard anything negative about your performance, they're on thin ice.

If new management wants to clean house, they'd best familiarize themselves with the union contract.

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Unfortunately there is a paper trail for minor issues. But it’s not about the same issue over and over again. I have since corrected those issues. So they did do the progressive discipline but it may not have been done correctly. Well it appears that way to me anyway. By that I mean “you didn’t do this” so if you continue to not do what’s required then you will be terminated. I don’t know I could be wrong but...

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The new manager gave me a letter every week since she started. Which certainly doesn’t give me time to improve or change anything. When they first started they had a meeting and stated “if there is a bad apple, we dispose of it”. This to me sounded planned out. It was done in about one month of her starting. That to me looks very suspicious. Think they were micromanaging and looking for reasons, any reason.

Well, it is standard to reassess a patient when something like a fall happens. That includes vitals and assessment. Neuro assessment for sure when a patient falls and has a cut on their head. Think brain bleed, concussion. And document it! When you took her to her room for further assessment, what kind of assessment did you plan on doing that didn't involve vitals and neuro. I can see why they would be upset over you not doing it, I think letting you know you did not follow protocol and giving you constructive criticism would help. I do not think you should have been terminated. But I guess they will only know why you were terminated over this. They maybe didn't feel like you deserved another chance because of the lack of assessment of the patient.

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Weight bearing, mobility, ROM and pain. I will find out in a couple of weeks if I will be reinstated. If not then hopefully severance. I have been reading up on things and it seems that there is some hope. There isn’t much more I can do than that. I just know I am a good nurse and to me they made a mistake. Yes I know I made some errors but I do deserve a second chance. They have treated me unfairly. They certainly treated me different than my co workers.

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