Published Jul 12, 2017
Secel
5 Posts
Anyone know with the phasing out of the MS NP and the new DNP if they are looking at changing the by state independent/non independent practice (needing a physican overseeing in some states).
DNPs and MS-NP generally make the same which makes little sense most industries pay more depending on education.
Also im my state were restricted practice- which i understand why doctors feel NPs with a Masters were not a replacement for a physician. But even with DNP u dont make the same as a physican and dont have same practice rights.
Im curious if anyones heard about a petition to change pracitioner rights.
JellyDonut
131 Posts
I am not following. the NP scope of practice is identical for MS trained NPs as it is for DNPs. DNP is just additional research and has little to do with the actual practice of medicine.
DizzyJ DHSc PA-C
198 Posts
There is constant petition to change NP practice, but there is no difference between MSN/DNP as far as the ability to practice and prescribe.
AJJKRN
1,224 Posts
Sounds like the OP is drinking some pretty tasty (and quite possibly very expensive) kool-aid...
traumaRUs, MSN, APRN
88 Articles; 21,268 Posts
There is no difference in practice of an MSN prepared vs DNP educated APRN
zedillo85
16 Posts
Anyone know with the phasing out of the MS NP and the new DNP if they are looking at changing the by state independent/non independent practice (needing a physican overseeing in some states). DNPs and MS-NP generally make the same which makes little sense most industries pay more depending on education.Also im my state were restricted practice- which i understand why doctors feel NPs with a Masters were not a replacement for a physician. But even with DNP u dont make the same as a physican and dont have same practice rights.Im curious if anyones heard about a petition to change pracitioner rights.
We should make the same since we basically do the same thing they do. I don't understand why administrators are treating NP like second class citizens...
prelift
73 Posts
Because they know they do not know as much even though NP think they do (at least some of them think they do). Have you even graduated yet or diagnosed or prescribed???? No, your sitting at home posting on your discussion boards to become physician-lite NP
Rnis, BSN, DNP, APRN, NP
341 Posts
You do realize they are talking about a master's prepared NP versus a Doctorate prepared NP...... not an MD.
meanmaryjean, DNP, RN
7,899 Posts
*you're
Jory, MSN, APRN, CNM
1,486 Posts
I completely disagree. Do you think LPN's and RN's should make the same because they "basically" do the same thing? Of course you don't. Same thing with a NP vs MD.
NPs are absolutely needed in our healthcare system but to say they are "basically the same" is not even in the stratosphere of being correct.
I say that as someone who will be one in a few weeks. I have no qualms about working as an NP.
SummitRN, BSN, RN
2 Articles; 1,567 Posts
I remember 6 years ago everyone was on a tear that there would be no more MSN NP programs after 2015 so ya better hurry up and sign up for a MSN program before they are all gone...
But with no curriculum to justify the DNP as entry to practice at the regulatory level and multitudes of schools happy to take all the MSN students that any school going DNP only would lose, it never happened.