brown nosing

ohmeowzer RN, RN · Sep 8, 2008

yes we have students that come to our floor and one young lady is always in tears , i asked her if the pt got his stool softner ? and she said she didn't know? and i asked for the mar to look and show her which med was the stool softner and she started to hand me the mar and then ran off with tears in her eyes and ran to her instructor and she was crying last time i saw her.

i asked the isntructor what was wrong and the instructor pulled me aside and said " we have a few of these students who cry all the time" and she told me not to worry and had a big smile on her face( llike she was laughing) , i asked if there was anything i could do? she stated " these kids need to grow up and get some backbone "

Daytonite, BSN, RN · Sep 9, 2008

Suppose this was a patient. Would it change your opinion of her?

loricatus · Sep 9, 2008

Think about it-------Brown nosers attract brown nosers. Nough said!

bthsp · Sep 9, 2008

Suppose this was a patient. Would it change your opinion of her?

I just don't know what you mean---I don't think patients wold have a reason to brown nose--brown nosers do it for attention ...and no i wouldn't cjange my opinion of her---like the saying goes if it quacks then its a duck... :nurse:

amjowens · Sep 10, 2008

I understand that there are some offensive brown-nosers out there, but what I don't get is when the instructors REACT to them! It is frustrating.

I'm pretty quiet and do my own thing. I've had my share of crying (recently, I get horrible headaches after clinical-we'll see if for the third week this happens tomorrow), but I do this in PRIVATE. I don't use my weaknesses as a cover. I'm in nursing school, and I need to learn to be a nurse. If I call the instructor to complain about every little thing-crying if need to for more effect-I'm not doing my job as a student. But, this style leaves me overlooked, because nobody (except my close friends) really know what I'm going through. Definitely, though, instructors seem to cater to the students who are loudest with their issues (actually seem to love this kind of thing, it appears).

bthsp · Sep 10, 2008

thank you---Yes I agree with you--but the thing I guess I should explain is that the students range in age from 18 to 55 and the ones inbetween are the worst--now this girl is 30 so i guess she should know better,the dirty language comes out much to often and the instructors just turn the other way..we are to do clinicals soon in a hospital and i want to see what kind of monsters appear..and i bet the instructor will whistle a different tune when their reputationis on the line

SPNbabe08 · Sep 11, 2008

ahhh the brown-nosers. but what one person will say is brown-nosing is active learning to another. but yes i understand where you are coming from. its only been 3 weeks, and people personalities are really coming out. expecially the obnoxious ones. the director is making the clinical list this week, and im just praying i dont get stuck.

HeyHeyitsMaay · Sep 13, 2008

After reading this I love my school that much more. We have students that use class time to tell their personal life stories. There's one particular student who's CONSTANTLY talking about her birth experiences and weight loss surgery. It drives me UP THE FREAKIN WALL. I won't get into why it irritates me when we're in class and people use that time to talk about things for the sake of getting as much attention as possible. But that's probably the worst thing somebody can do in my presence.

I have a terrible habit of non-verbally verbalizing. lol. I make faces, and don't even realize I'm doing it. As much as I can't stand that behavior, I'll never say a word to the 'offending' party. It's not my place. But when we're in class, or when I'm conversing with someone or watching a movie..anytime my mind is moving, so is my face and I really need to learn to control that.

So, I sit in the very last seat in the very back of a class of 70 students in the corner. The other day our fundamentals teacher said: 'I don't care if any of you like the stories that others tell or not. I don't want to see you laughing at others, talking after they've raised their hands or making faces. You will not earn your license, this school won't let you get far enough to take your NCLEX and you will be removed from the program if you can't learn to control yourselves. Agree or disagree with what they're doing, your tuition doesn't cover using your immaturity against others..not in this building.'

ha. point taken.

My school is run solely by women, who are more patient with the emotional outbursts. I personally don't like or tolerate it well, and if I was in a position of authority I wouldn't placate it. My mother has leukemia and I live with her. Part of the reason I've moved here is to help deal with her home care needs. She's also got a chronic infection resulting from venous stasis, is about to have surgery for prolapsed organs, is non compliant and refuses to acknowledge her and her husband's drug addiction and alcoholism. She refuses to allow me to raise my kids according to my personal ethos,..it's her way or the highway and I just don't have the money to move right now, so I've found ways to play the game in order to get through school and get out. I hadn't seen her in 10 years before I moved here and I believed that she had changed. Now that I've found out that she hasn't changed, my priorities have shifted and I'm going to finish school once and for all and suck it up until it's over. It's hell on earth. I can't even begin to describe how much I just want to pack up and be homeless somewhere with my kids rather than put up with this horrible life right now. On top of that, I'm not too smart. It's very hard for me to learn, I have very limited experience save one home health position that lasted three months. I have no clue what I'm doing at school, struggle a lot to concentrate and figure out how to do my work and absorb what we're being taught, and have self confidence issues that make me look like a TOTAL MORON in labs. I'm pretty sure all of my teachers think I'm an idiot. If you saw me, you'd understand. I have no common sense and am desperately trying to figure out how to get some.

My point in explaining all of that is...how is that my school's fault? I don't want to be labeled, I don't want to be seen as some sort of victim, and I darn sure don't want to be coddled for it. I believe that there are some folks who just don't understand

that there are times when the focus can't be on them. At some point, they learn very quickly to (wo)man up and behave according to the needs of others, and not their own. Life isn't fair at all, and will eat them up and spit out the bones at some point or another. I don't care how scared you are, how hard your life is, or how desperate you are to fit in.

If you make this thing all about you, and you're more intent on making this a game and winning, at some point you'll be called out for that. I see lots of people who are that way, and it's not my job to point them out. I think being a nurse will do that way better than I ever could. This isn't an office where you can do that b.s. dance through the politics. If you don't do it right, somebody's health will suffer. I know there are a lot of difficult people in the nursing profession, and there's lots of crap you deal with in a field dominated by women. But all of my instructors are RN's with active licenses, and they're so wonderful. They're teaching me that as long as every action I take is rooted in humility and selfless, we can't go wrong.

whew. that was long!