Ad for an MA program

What does one learn in MA school? It seems like most of the stuff can be taught in a one week orientation.

The cynical side of me wants to think they have a lecture on "how to pass yourself off as a nurse."

If someone really wants to be and MA, that's great. I am all for people having a job they love. However, I think it really says something about a profession when they think (and they want everyone else to think) that the biggest plus of the job is 'cute scrubs.'

I've seen one like that. They advertise their business school then show the young man, presumably a new grad from their program, in a board meeting in a fancy conference room at the top of a skyscraper. Sorry, but the only way a new grad is in that room is if they are delivering the coffee. That is not a criticism of the person who went there for school...it is a criticism of their slime ball advertising.

And I'd be placing the emphasis not on 'new grad' but 'new grad Associate Degree business major'. Because when there are (and there are) MBAs who are struggling to find work, what's the guy with the two-year CC degree gonna do?

And I'd be placing the emphasis not on 'new grad' but 'new grad Associate Degree business major'. Because when there are (and there are) MBAs who are struggling to find work, what's the guy with the two-year CC degree gonna do?

Make sure you ordered everyone's favorite varieties of danishes?

I can't believe this slipped my mind...but many of the ppl I see on my Facebook timeline who are enrolled in these MA programs like to say that they're in "medical school":uhoh3: That just irks me. You're not studying to become a doctor!

There has been talk for several years about the government investigating for profit schools. Given how many Americans are in debt, especially with school loan, it is surprise to me that they false promises and contribution to young people's debt that these schools have not faced greater criticism. Then again, this all proceeds under the false assumption that politicians actually care about their constituents (those than donate big bucks to them).

But think of it another way: why should government, politicians get involved at all, really? Isn't it up to the adult who enrolls in these schools to weigh the pros and cons and then be held accountable for their decisions? We are a capitalistic society, and if people want to pay money for classes, who is to say that government should take it upon themselves to tell people 'no'? It's a case of "Let the Buyer Beware", imo. For-profit schools are there to do just that, and if someone is foolish enough to do it, isn't that the grand part about being an American--choice?

I think it's stupid to smoke (I know, whole 'nother topic) but cigarettes aren't going to be outlawed any time soon.

....are enrolled in these MA programs like to say that they're in "medical school" That just irks me. You're not studying to become a doctor!

Perhaps I should tell people I'm studying to be a neurosurgeon. I read an article on it very recently, you know....AND saw a video.

Especially since they finish with no degree (it's a certificate of completion) after spending at least as much as anyone paying for an actual ADN.

The shame here is this person didn't think to do any research at all before signing up for this shellacking....certainly a simple Google search would have cleared it up fast. You said you were on a date; I'm picturing it didn't work out.

Oh it didn't work out, I quickly ran away from that situation. My ADN program is about the same cost as the "Sanford Brown MA course" and I finish with an Associates and Diploma :-]

But think of it another way: why should government, politicians get involved at all, really? Isn't it up to the adult who enrolls in these schools to weigh the pros and cons and then be held accountable for their decisions? We are a capitalistic society, and if people want to pay money for classes, who is to say that government should take it upon themselves to tell people 'no'? It's a case of "Let the Buyer Beware", imo. For-profit schools are there to do just that, and if someone is foolish enough to do it, isn't that the grand part about being an American--choice?

I think it's stupid to smoke (I know, whole 'nother topic) but cigarettes aren't going to be outlawed any time soon.

I think the reason for government potentially "going to be" getting involved in it isn't a "we need to protect people from themselfs" type thing. It has to do with the fact that government grants end up paying a chunk of it. Which government grants operate on the assumption that helping with getting someone a degree puts them in a better place to provide fore them selfs, which reduces their need for assistance, and then they also feed back into the tax basis of assistance, and into the economy. With these schools aiming at people that almost all will be eligable for those grants, and does not put them back into a better situation, its pretty much the govenment dumping money into a company to make people feel like they are improving their lives.

But think of it another way: why should government, politicians get involved at all, really? Isn't it up to the adult who enrolls in these schools to weigh the pros and cons and then be held accountable for their decisions? We are a capitalistic society, and if people want to pay money for classes, who is to say that government should take it upon themselves to tell people 'no'? It's a case of "Let the Buyer Beware", imo. For-profit schools are there to do just that, and if someone is foolish enough to do it, isn't that the grand part about being an American--choice?

I think it's stupid to smoke (I know, whole 'nother topic) but cigarettes aren't going to be outlawed any time soon.

I am not a fan of government being involved in everything, but this is a case of false advertising, plain and simple. The ad gives one the impression that you will be working at the doctor's side with their (the doctor's) 'cutting edge technology.' If someone is foolish enough to be swayed by 'cool scrubs' then they will also be influences by the false claims made by the 'school.'

I think the reason for government potentially "going to be" getting involved in it isn't a "we need to protect people from themselfs" type thing. It has to do with the fact that government grants end up paying a chunk of it. Which government grants operate on the assumption that helping with getting someone a degree puts them in a better place to provide fore them selfs, which reduces their need for assistance, and then they also feed back into the tax basis of assistance, and into the economy. With these schools aiming at people that almost all will be eligable for those grants, and does not put them back into a better situation, its pretty much the govenment dumping money into a company to make people feel like they are improving their lives.

Ah, now I see your point...and I agree.

I am not a fan of government being involved in everything, but this is a case of false advertising, plain and simple. The ad gives one the impression that you will be working at the doctor's side with their (the doctor's) 'cutting edge technology.' If someone is foolish enough to be swayed by 'cool scrubs' then they will also be influences by the false claims made by the 'school.'

But see, it's not false advertising. The cutting edge technology might actually BE in the building in which the MA is employed. They DO "work at the doctor's side" in a few rare and brief instances, so that's not a lie...just incredibly overly exaggerated.

And, again, why is someone who is foolish, gullible, whatever, a reason to make government interference an issue? I happen to think the majority of the liberal arts cr*p taught under the guise of "Humanities" is a joke, but if someone wants to buy the class....so be it.

The exception is PghSN's point, that someone being stupid and choosing a worthless education doesn't mean that taxpayer/government funding should be used in the form of student grants. They want to buy stupid, they can pay for the stupidity.