Type C

1 hour ago, Curious1997 said:

Religious people project a patina of consideration until you disagree with them! And they totally lack gratitude! 

I'm certainly familiar with the kind of people you are describing.  However, I know deeply religious people who don't wear it on their sleeves, but strive daily to live their tenets, so I can't dismiss religion out of hand.

I am seeing haunting parallels among secular people, who purport to embrace every do-gooder cause.  They don't hesitate to chide others yet live their own lives in less than exemplary ways.

Like spouting about climate change and the evils of capitalism but buying individual size water  bottles, flying on private jets, shopping as entertainment, requiring fresh towels daily in hotels, etc.  Self-righteous pontificating is always easier than adjusting one's own personal behaviours, religious or secular.

Whereas I find it dull, boring, repetitive and predictable, as it is a modus operandi.

Bring up the subject of religion, tout science, ask loaded questions, and berate those who do not agree.

45 minutes ago, Davey Do said:

Whereas I find it dull, boring, repetitive and predictable, as it is a modus operandi.

The pattern: Bring up the subject of religion, ask loaded questions, tout science, and berate those who believe otherwise.

Or bring up current events, make groupthink statements that you can't support, and berate the person who doesn't agree with you.  If you're too polite to berate, then abruptly shut down the conversation that you started.

You're right.  It is boring and predictable.  I love a good exchange of ideas on any subject.  Check out a conversation between Jordan Peterson and Stephen Fry.  They fundamentally disagree on many things but had a respectful and engaging discussion.  Youtube.

1 hour ago, TriciaJ said:

They fundamentally disagree on many things but had a respectful and engaging discussion. 

And where's the fun and drama in that when we can gain attention, feed our monkey, and feel smugly satisfied by stirring Schiltz ?

2 hours ago, Davey Do said:

Whereas I find it dull, boring, repetitive and predictable, as it is a modus operandi.

... ask loaded questions....

1 hour ago, TriciaJ said:

 If you're too polite to berate, then abruptly shut down the conversation that you started..

1 hour ago, JKL33 said:

Nurse is called upon to display great empathy, which can amount to the appearance of excusing the behavior. Nurse secretly feels like 2nd victim because abuse and aggression doesn't need to be enabled... 

And, as psych Nurses, we are instructed not to confront a Patient's behavior, because confrontation is interpreted as a sign of aggression.

Instead of using the word confrontation, we can document interventions described as "instructed, informed, or guided" to appropriate behavior.

In essence, we are confronting the Patient's behavior, but are doing so in a less aggressive manner. One method in not aggressively confronting behavior is to avoid using the word "you" or the word "should".

 Using statement such as "You did this" and "You should do this" are aggressive statements- such statements which are regularly used on these forums.

Using the word you is symbolically akin to thumping the receiver in the chest. Using the word should is button-pushing, and the sender is seen as the mean Parent.

Instead of the word you, using the word "we" is less aggressive. The word you is singular and stands vulnerably alone. The word we is plural and is interpreted as a sort of togetherness, and has more power.

Instead of using the word should, the word "need" is also less aggressive.

For example, in confronting (guiding) a Patient who is manifesting inappropriate behavior, we could say something like, "Doing so and so is inappropriate, and we want to be appropriate, so we need to do so and so".

While guiding the Patient toward more appropriate behavior, subtle, visual clues are important. For example, while stating "we want to be appropriate", we nod our heads. This action is positively interpreted as a "yes", and the receiver is more drawn to what we are saying.

Tried and true techniques.