I traditionally have a thread heading to the election, here we go.

Get out the popcorn for this one.

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is expected to formally announce next week he is running for president in 2024, NBC News reported Thursday, citing two sources familiar with the matter.

The governor's official entry into the Republican primary field will put him head-to-head with former President Donald Trump, the party's current frontrunner for the nomination. Trump has already spent months treating DeSantis as his primary campaign rival, thrashing him with torrents of criticism over his gubernatorial record, his political skills and his personality.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/18/desantis-plans-to-officially-announce-presidential-run-next-week.html

NRSKarenRN said:

CNN

3/4/2024:  Supreme Court unanimously rules to keep Trump on Colorado ballot
 

Off to read the SCOTUS opinion.

 

Only the most partisan among us are surprised.

https://allnurses.com/the-trump-thread-t747045/?page=55&tab=comments#comment-8146757

More bad polling for Biden.  

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/04/us/politics/trump-biden-policies-help-hurt.html

Beerman said:

More bad polling for Biden.  

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/04/us/politics/trump-biden-policies-help-hurt.html

Yep.

Remember when Clinton led in the polls in March of 2016? 

toomuchbaloney said:

Yep.

Remember when Clinton led in the polls in March of 2016? 

True.

This isn't a poll on who is going to win the election, however.

It's a poll that indicates most are happier with Trump's policies vs Biden's.

toomuchbaloney said:

In other words, it doesn't matter if a fellow is found to have been engaged in insurrection, the congress that also participated in the insurrection gets to decide who is disqualified.  

LOL...remind us who "found him to have been engaged in insurrection".

Beerman said:

Only the most partisan among us are surprised.

https://allnurses.com/the-trump-thread-t747045/?page=55&tab=comments#comment-8146757

No one is surprised.  

Beerman said:

True.

This isn't a poll on who is going to win the election, however.

It's a poll that indicates most are happier with Trump's policies vs Biden's.

Because polls reflect people's feelings, not facts.  Trump's policies killed more small businesses than any other president.  His policies created chaos and animus in the midst of a pandemic.  Trump's policies rolled back pay protection for workers and cut money and resources from the food safety net.  Trump muzzled scientists at the EPA and then at the CDC as he epically mismanaged the pandemic.  

Trump sure hopes that people don't talk facts about his record, his personal history or his current legal troubles as the weeks and months drag on toward the election, eh?  

toomuchbaloney said:

No one is surprised.  

Wait.  Your words:

"Will the SCOTUS have courage and interpret the constitution according to its plain language and intentions, or will they spin and twist to appease the mad king? :

It was 9-0.  Are you saying the liberal justices caved and joined the conservatives in spinning and twisting to "appease the mad king"?

toomuchbaloney said:

Because polls reflect people's feelings, not facts.  Trump's policies killed more small businesses than any other president. 

Sure.  A worldwide pandemic and Democrats on the local level limiting commerce during that time had little to with that, I suppose.

the Biden track record of handling crisis suggests things would have gone better under his watch.  LOL 

Beerman said:

Sure.  A worldwide pandemic and Democrats on the local level limiting commerce during that time had little to with that, I suppose.

the Biden track record of handling crisis suggests things would have gone better under his watch.  LOL 

Trump's inept marginal leadership had local communities and states fending for themselves during a pandemic.  How quickly we forget Kushner telling the country that our national stockpile of life saving supplies and equipment wasn't for the states. The official website was changed to reflect that BS immediately after his press appearance.  That's the crazy track record. 

https://www.kff.org/news-summary/jared-kushner-draws-criticism-over-comments-on-federal-stockpile-role-in-u-s-governments-coronavirus-response/

Biden, on the other hand, got millions of people vaccinated and promoted a unified public health message to the people based upon the scientific recommendations rather than petty politics.  

What kind of delusion leads one to think that Trump performs better in a national crisis when the evidence says otherwise?

toomuchbaloney said:

Trump's inept marginal leadership had local communities and states fending for themselves during a pandemic.  How quickly we forget Kushner telling the country that our national stockpile of life saving supplies and equipment wasn't for the states. The official website was changed to reflect that BS immediately after his press appearance.  That's the crazy track record. 

https://www.kff.org/news-summary/jared-kushner-draws-criticism-over-comments-on-federal-stockpile-role-in-u-s-governments-coronavirus-response/

Biden, on the other hand, got millions of people vaccinated and promoted a unified public health message to the people based upon the scientific recommendations rather than petty politics.  

What kind of delusion leads one to think that Trump performs better in a national crisis when the evidence says otherwise?

That's all a nice deflection from the fact that I pushed back on your assertion that Trump killed small businesses.

Anyway,  I certainly forgot that stupid comment by Kushner.   As I'm sure everyone else here did as well, because it didn't matter.  That's your example of Trump's inept leadership?

Yes. Millions were vaccinated when Biden was president.  Vaccines that were developed when Trump was in office.   And how soon we forget Harris, Pelosi,  and other Democrats and liberal media members said they'd never trust such a vaccine that was developed under a Trump administration. 

I worked for a contractor doing vaccines for a good portion of 2021 and first few months of 2022, including 4 months in FL of all places.  The FL Dept of Health,  and other similar agencies in other locations where I went certainly were involved.  Money cane from the federal govt obviously.  But, how exactly did "Biden get millions vaccinated"?

Beerman said:

That's all a nice deflection from the fact that I pushed back on your assertion that Trump killed small businesses.

Anyway,  I certainly forgot that stupid comment by Kushner.   As I'm sure everyone else here did as well, because it didn't matter.  That's your example of Trump's inept leadership?

Yes. Millions were vaccinated when Biden was president.  Vaccines that were developed when Trump was in office.   And how soon we forget Harris, Pelosi,  and other Democrats and liberal media members said they'd never trust such a vaccine that was developed under a Trump administration. 

I worked for a contractor doing vaccines for a good portion of 2021 and first few months of 2022, including 4 months in FL of all places.  The FL Dept of Health,  and other similar agencies in other locations where I went certainly were involved.  Money cane from the federal govt obviously.  But, how exactly did "Biden get millions vaccinated"?

Of course small businesses were victims of the covid pandemic.  

https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/notes/feds-notes/business-entry-and-exit-in-the-covid-19-pandemic-a-preliminary-look-at-official-data-20220506.html

Kushner's inexperienced ineptitude and callous ignorance about responding to a public health crisis absolutely DID matter.  He was in a leadership position for COVID response, remember? He had states bidding against one another for supplies, ffs. That gaslight attempt was pathetic. 

Yes we know that Trump paid to expedite the vaccine delivery.  He's gotten plenty of credit for that.  Now give him the credit he deserves for convincing so many people that masking or vaccinating was a political decision.

I guess if that's what you want to believe that those democrats actually said about getting vaccinated, that's your choice.  I know better, and I suspect that you do too.  

It's interesting to me that you acknowledge that Biden got lots of people vaccinated and then you wonder how he did it. Coincidentally, I use to participate in the organization and execution of mass vaccination events in the Midwest. I'd say that it mostly distills down to attention to detail, good contingency planning and logistics.  You have to have the people wanting vaccine in the same place as the temperature sensitive vaccine and at a time when someone can administer. This is a good time to reflect on the reality that Biden inherited a pandemic and a new vaccine but did not inherit a national plan for distribution or administration of the vaccine.  

Are you asking tongue in cheek how Biden managed to get people vaccinated or do you really not remember? He promised 100 million shots in arms in the first 100 days and delivered that.  There was quite a bit of discussion about how that was achieved, it seems.