The Black List

caliotter3 · Jan 28, 2010

Surely you know that black listing occurs in the workplace. There is nothing new about that fact. No one can stop people from talking to others unofficially. And then there is gossip. You can't waste your time worrying about the black list or you will never work. Everyone has to get out there and get beyond negative statements made to keep them from working. If you feel that your good name is being disparaged illegally, then you need to see an attorney. But chances are very high that you will be told that the employer can say anything about your job performance that is true, and anything about your job performance that is their "opinion". So, it is a waste of money to go after an employer for speaking poorly about you, unless you have a cut and dry case. Good luck in your job hunting.

vanlo001 · Jan 28, 2010

I mean for sure I've seen this happen. I live in a fairly large city but these managers - especially if it's the same specialty like nicu- see each other or communicate with each other due to community programs or state committee meetings or conferences. If one of then deems you unworthy you may have a hard time penetrating the market especially right now and especially with so many young eager new grads willing to do whatevers needed to get a job. Consider changing specialties and doing something different or going outside your immediate area. You might be able to build your credibility among a new group and they may see you as a shining star. Do some self reflecting and think about what led to the black listing, perhaps you were more vocal than need be or overcome with emotions or had a particularly rough year when it came to I'll ess. Be honest with yourself. After you settle in to your new place you may be able to interview again at the places you are turned away from. And maybe with the new references they will take you on. Or you may find you enjoy your new work place. Don't give up. Just keep searching and networking and be flexible about what you are willing to do.

caroladybelle, BSN, RN · Jan 28, 2010

Check "GroupOne" in Texas.

marineswife0809 · Feb 12, 2010

i know when i worked in a ltc in california one of my co-workers she was on a black list. she hurted her back and sued a ltc for alot of money , so basically she cant find another job (considered a risk) :confused:

gmkj · Feb 14, 2010

I wrote this in another post but I think it is also a appropriate response to this post also.

I live in a small town and lost many jobs due to my addiction.After I found my sobriety I was unable to find anywhere that would give me a chance. i finally took a job as a cashier for about 2 years . I did however continue my urine screens and my contact with the BON. I then was fortunate enough to find a facility that would give me a chancee as a CNA. I did that for about 10 months. then I finally recieved the great news that they wee willing to give me a chance as a lpn. II started my orientation last week. I am so happy and glad my hard work paid off. Dont give up.

lifeistweet · Feb 14, 2010

To momofsix, I have six kids too!! It definately gives you the courage to get out there and look for jobs! Mt story is much the same as yours. After 21 mo. I am just getting back into nursing. On the bright side, the time away can be beneficial to your recovery. I feel my recovery is very strong now as I attempt to return to nursing. My life, although I have seen huge financial struggles, is much much better now. Recovery is awesome and has to come first. It's good for me to hear your story. Thanks for sharing. ODAAT. :redpinkhe

yellahorse · Feb 14, 2010

I too am scared of the "black list". I just got the word from the bon that they will be reinstating my license soon and I am scared I won't be able to find a job.

My goal right now is to just get a job in nsg anyplace i can(when I get my license). It's scarey for me because my whole nsg career has been in L&D.

Good Luck all

gmkj · Feb 18, 2010

yellahorse;

dont give up whatever it takes just remember that as long as you stay clean you deserve a chance and someone will see that.

imintrouble, BSN, RN · Feb 21, 2010

You may have to work somewhere that's not first on your list. I too am in my 50s. The thought of job hunting and competing with nurses in their 20s is scary. Just be strong. Keep thinking about how lucky somebody is going to be when they hire you.

nursekillary · May 9, 2013

I need help. I am new to Arizona and I picked up a job here in LTC, and didn't do much looking into the company before hand (REGRETS!!!). Well, I was offered a perm position on one of their units as a full time charge nurse & I took it and was looking elsewhere at the same time.... My first night (NOC) on shift I was SHOCKED at what the aids were doing.....or more like what they were NOT doing. Patients were NOT being changed, they were total bed changes for the next shift, their rooms were disasters; garbage overflowing, smelly odors from human waste, call lights completely ignored to where the patients were crying out... etc. I was stunned at the negligence & then realized I am the "new nurse", AND one of the aids, his wife was a nurse on another floor at this facility... When the next shift came in I spoke to the aid relieving my shifts aid & asked her how she felt about total bed changes & the rooms looking the way they do when she comes in (I've seen aids chase each other to their cars for not completing their "rounds" and leaving such mess to another shift!). She paused and said, "There's NOTHING you can do about this Cyndi....That's IF you want to keep your job in the very least.." I said, "What do you mean by that"? she said, "These people are dangerous Cyndi and in the very least you will lose your job, so I just come in and quietly clean it up and keep my mouth shut". Well, naturally, I CANNOT allow for this to happen on my shift and take responsibility as shift supervisor.... I tried a friendly, positive approach to try to motivate them to want to do their jobs better.... and right.... and it was like Holy Water to the EXCORSIST! Then I had everyone snubbing me, calling me names, etc. I went to a trusted person that does the schedule (mind you, he told me himself that the aids run this place, doing whatever they want & NOT doing their jobs and it has been going on for WAY too long now. That also, more often than not, a new nurse hires on & will either NOT come back or leave halfway through her shift.... hmm... had I ONLY known this going into this place!!!), I told him I was ready to give notice, I just couldnt continue with things the way they were, and I was NOT going to put my name on this abuse & neglect!. He started to take a stand, and remove one of the main players off her shift....only to have him come in WITH her an hour later, promising me things would be different and she was going to stop with her harassment.... Of course it didnt and IT ONLY GOT WORSE, because now I'm a "SNITCH".... The aid that his wife is a nurse on another unit there? She started coming down, making snitch comments in front of me during my shift, one of the other aids on my unit, she has a twin sister works on another floor & she started coming down & making the same "snitch" comments... Let me tell you, I was getting it from every angle! IT WAS HORRIBLY STRESSFUL...

A few nights later I called the unit manager, during my shift & asked for a replacement as I was FINISHED with this and was not going to tolerate being harassed & honestly? I felt threatened & worried about my own safety!

I went home that night & It only got worse from there.... The DON told me I'M SUSPENDED FROM MY SHIFT!!! I asked WHY and if the aid (the main player in the harassment) was suspended too, she said YES, she was also suspended and I am until further investigation has been done... and I found out from someone else that she was NEVER suspended, only I was!!!!! I also learned that the aids call all their own shots there and the nurse that says anything to them will be fired out the door. The company wont back the nurse...and sadly enough, the other nurses were friends of the aids WIFE on the other floors, so I had NO ONE to turn to at all. I left the place and NEVER went back. I was not paid for a meeting I attended & obviously was deemed "the problem".... I am HEARTSICK as I ONLY wanted their jobs done & done right. NO ONE should have to lay in urine & feces all night long and call lights go completely and totally un-answered.... TOTAL patient negligence and abuse....There's SO much more, but would be a book if I listed it all here...

So now I'm looking for a job, AGAIN... and the phone has been ghost town.... I'm worried sick that I too, have now been placed on some sort of Blacklist too.... I KNOW I could go see an attorney as I was punished for blowing the whistle on what this particular shift has been up to for God only knows how long now....I didnt want to though because I was afraid of blacklisting myself....and I'm starting to think it happened anyways.... I KNOW the right thing to do is to take a stand and stand up for my patients. But at the same time, I have children to feed & bills to pay! Is it possible my name was put out there as a trouble maker, etc.? I should have went ahead an hired an attorney as it seems like what I was trying to avoid is happening anyways..... and it makes me ILL. I check my my intentions, over and over again... I KNOW my intentions were professional and pure....and trust me, I go over what happened time & time again as I am ALL about learning and addressing what I can change about myself.... I had NO idea that I was walking into HELL and there was just NO way I could put my name on such disaster and take responsibility for what was happening as "Charge Nurse".... am I finished here???? I am horrified as I have put many Resumes in w/ apps and NO ONE is calling.... Even though my experience is a perfect match for many of the positions I've applied for.... Is there anything I can do??? I am new to this state, and feel like things got started on a bad track.... had I only known the reputation of this facility BEFORE, I would have never applied! My God, I flew down for the interview, and we all know how good things can look during the day or when others know they are being watched, so I just didnt see it during that quick, 10 minute tour I had after my interview!

Does anyone have any input? I sure could use it!!! Do I move back home??? Ugh! Our dream was to finally get to move here.... my husband LOVES it here & I KNOW how much hes wanted to live here.... I feel like I have ruined all my opportunities because of a slum facility that I wish I had NEVER stepped foot in!!!! This is a very short version of what transpired over about 1 months time....

I've read about this "GROUP ONE"... does this exists in Az??? Is there any way to access it to see if my names on it? Does anyone out there have the ability to look???? PLEASE help, either it will confirm my fears & I'll have to make other arrangements or maybe learn I'm being paranoid (ya, right, lol!) and it'll all blow over.... IS THERE ANYTHING I CAN DO???? HELP.....

jeanetteatrnm · Jun 19, 2013

http://www.azdhs.gov/als/long-term-care/documents/nursing-home-abuse.pdf Check out this web site. Its the Arizona Licensing Board for long term care facilities. It will tell you how to file a complaint against that nursing home. I think it terrible the situation in that nursing home. Report them!!! Best of luck. Let us know how it goes