PsychNurse24

Wow, your arrogance is astounding! To make a blanket statement that anyone who goes to the universities that YOU deem inferior is stupid is just one example of your superior attitude. Narcissistic personality disorder is my dx for you. You need to learn humility. And for those who are wondering, yes, I did graduate from Walden University, as did my daughter. We both passed our boards on the first attempt, and we both have wonderful jobs where we perform well, per our Psychiatrist managers. If you're considering Walden, or others that some consider "diploma mills", please don't let these judgmental folks convince you not to go! I'm still waiting to see real research and real evidence, not just a few people's anecdotal stories. P.S., as many people know, those who have personality disorders rarely recognize that they do!

The fact that you want to disseminate information “loudly”and you want to “scare people straight” is disturbing to me. It is exactly that tactic that people object to. Whether you agree or not, people have a choice to make about being vaccinated. I think perhaps you need to review Nursing ethics. Would you ever consider yelling at your diabetic patients to stop eating so much or to start exercising? Would you try to scare them straight and not just limit yourself to disseminating information loudly to your patients, but to their families?!! It sounds to me like you’re encouraging aggressiveness while treating your patients. If I recall, advocating for your patient is the number one duty you have as a Nurse. It doesn’t matter if you agree with your patients decisions about healthcare or not, as Nurses, we always advocate for our patients wishes. And if I worked with you and saw you using such tactics on patients or their families, I would file a complaint with your state board of Nursing!

Besides being SO intelligent you are hilarious. I have healthy self worth and self confidence. Unfortunately, you must lack the same traits as you have to pontificate on all nurses.com to tell me my education sucks. Of course, you are also far superior to anyone at ANCC. Little people with little minds will continue to insult nurses who dare go to Walden or any other university that you do not approve. How dare we differ in opinion to you!! I already have a great life and career and will continue to. Good luck to you. And no, thank you for playing.

Thank goodness none of the Walden graduates will ever work for your practice. We take a great research class that teaches us to evaluate evidence. I am afraid you would change your practice based on a few people’s opinions. Come to think of it, some of my clients tell me that smoking meth helps them focus on the voices coming from the electrical outlets in their room. I’m going to suggest to the psychiatrist that we stop discouraging people from using meth. Surely this qualifies as expert opinion, and even though it is low on the evidence tree, it is still evidence. Just like your anecdotal evidence.

Sorry, not sorry that you don’t understand what accreditation means. You don’t understand that classes have to compare. You don’t understand that I know people that have graduated from Walden and are practicing. I will let you know when I graduate and start practicing. My daughter, who also graduated from Walden, passed her boards and has a job. No, Walden does not have a record of poor educational outcomes, you’re just lying there. Like I said, why don’t you be a big boy or girl and work to either improve educations from your so-called diploma mill universities or work with the ANCC about credentialing. It’s easy to take pot shots at universities and other nurses. Do something!!

OK, I understand your view. My view is that my daughter has graduated from Walden, passed her boards on her first attempt, and before even passing her boards had a job offer. I know two other people who have graduated from NP programs at Walden University. They also passed their boards on the first attempt and also are practicing now. I also attend Walden and know that I am getting a good education. And I am in contact with many people in my current program and they all feels like we’re getting a good education. What I am suggesting is that if people feel so strongly about this, then they need to take action. Contact professional nursing organizations, get together and put together an action plan, do something to change how it is now. But to continually post on all nurses.com that Walden, Phoenix, and other Universities provide an inferior education insults us. I did due diligence in comparing many, many PMHNP programs before I started Walden. The classes at all universities, whether it’s Duke University or Walden, have to compare. That is how universities are accredited. I have always done well in school and receive top grades. I did not pick Walden just because I could slide by into school and graduate with less knowledge than others. What is infuriating is that people with anecdotal evidence keep telling me I’m a dummy when I have personal experience!

It is up to him to prove his point that some universities do not provide quality education. So far, all he has are anecdotal suppositions. The processes are all in place. Graduate from an accredited university, take the NP boards, and start practicing. If you agree, why don’t you defend your position? Better yet change the systems that are now in place. If I knew how, I’d post a funny picture of you all with inflated egos and giant heads! (To fit your vastly superior brain power)

Walden did a great job communicating to me the price of my education, the classes I would be taking, and every other rule! And I am getting a quality education as my two friends did who have graduated and are practicing NPs! p.s. They passed her boards on the first attempt. So I guess Walden didn’t give them such a horrible education after all!

I don’t want to and I don’t have to because I don’t see a problem. Take some action steps and quit whining!!! As a Walden student and as I know several other people who have graduated from Walden and are practicing NPs, I will take my own experience over yours! You’re like the Night Shift nurses who complained for years on end that the charge nurses would never help them. I would say did you talk to the charge nurses. No. Did you talk to your manager. No. And I’m sure they’re still whining and complaining to this day. TAKE ACTION if you feel so strongly.

There are already authorities who maintain the integrity of the profession. ANCC and other governing boards. Plus universities that have to meet certain standards of integrity. Plus nurse practitioners who must pass boards before they can practice. If you consider yourself an authority above those, then you are sadly mistaken! But if you want change, as I told somebody else on this thread, take action. Get a group together, get a specialized thread here on all nurses.com, put an action plan into place, and figure out how to make changes. Contact your professional nursing organization, per your quote. Until then, you have to live with what is in place. It does no good to whine and complain and insult! Be a part of a solution. I, myself, don’t think there is a problem.

For the last time, you have no proof that Walden or Phoenix persistently produce graduates that are less than other graduates. I am tired of the whining. We disagree. Why don’t you get a specialized group together on a different thread? You all can work together. Put together a plan. Take three months to research what you think needs to be done to make changes. Maybe get an audience with ANCC. Maybe compare classes between different universities. Maybe try to figure out what percentage of graduates from different schools get jobs. Whatever it is, put a plan in place and do something! Take action if you are so convinced that Walden and others are inferior. Quit whining and quit insulting other Nurses.

There is when you insult all the Nurses who are attending your so-called diploma mills. This site is to help and support fellow nurses.

People who are not intelligent, as you say, will not graduate from school nor will they pass the NP boards. And don’t tell me that the diploma mill schools don’t have comparable classes to brick and mortar schools. They do! And don’t tell me that people who graduate and pass boards are still not intelligent enough to practice. They are! The process is to go to an accredited college, graduate, pass the board certifications, and practice. I’ve written this before and I’ll write it again. My friend from childhood is a doctor. She has been practicing over 32 years. She went to a highly ranked medical school. She said medical school is pass fail and there are quite a few doctors out there that probably shouldn’t be practicing. So even those Universities with stringent application and approval processes produce some clunkers. . These threads bother me because you’re going after all Nurses who are attending university such as Walden, Chamberlin, Kaplan, etc. Nurses attending those colleges are not dimwits! Believe me, there are plenty of very bright, intelligent people attending your so-called diploma mill universities.

Oh sure, writing letters and signing a petition are going to stop universities who are accredited, to stop their programs that produce graduates who pass board certifications. You all have too much time on your hands. So much energy wasted on something that has not even been proven. As you all admit, there is just anecdotal evidence , not EVIDENCE at all! No proof, no data! Very proud of two people I know who recently graduated and have jobs as PMHNPs.

Why is it disturbing if it is easy to get into NP school? We are already Nurses and once we graduate we have to pass the NP boards. All these universities are accredited. You are disturbed by information with no data to support it.