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Yeah I totally agree that ADN programs are much more affordable especially for adults with families. My point was that although increasing entry to practice requirements may result in losing people who otherwise might consider nursing as their 2nd or 3rd career, it could lead to recruiting people who have no or less barrier to education like teenagers. I was just saying that changing entry to practice might not cause nursing shortage due to decrease in nursing program enrollment as many people assume. Rather it might lead to attract people who are considering nursing versus other health care professions like PT, OT, SLP, pharmacy, etc. It could even alleviate nursing shortage in a long run if people enter nursing at younger ages and practice 30+ years instead of 20 or less years. Well it's just my assumption.

Well, I don't know it's reasoning, but if one grows up in an environment where university education is the minimum expectation from your parents, one can't say that "I want to do nursing that does not need university education." My parents would have been so disappointed if I have gone to community college after high school. For them it doesn't make sense to choose community college instead of university just because the former is cheaper and you can go into the workforce faster.

I don't agree with the point that if BSN is required for entry to practice, many people won't choose nursing. I think there is another pool of people who want to choose nursing if BSN is the minimum entry level to practice - people right out of high school. I got a bachelor's degree in another area before nursing, and the reason for not choosing nursing right out of high school even though I was very interested in becoming a nurse was that one can become a nurse only with 2-3 years of education. Some just simply won't consider nursing if people without a bachelor's degree are also allowed to do the exact same work.

I actually posted this in Nursing Career Advice forum, but no response so far. So I will post this here again. Hope this is ok.:wink2: I just have a question regarding references when applying for a new job. Is it a 'must' to give my current nurse manager's contact info as a reference? If I tell my manager that I am trying to change my job by asking her to give me a good reference, the manager would certainly be unhappy. In case I was unsuccessful and I needed to stay on my current job, my relationship with my manager would be kinda difficult. So I don't think I will use my NM's name as a reference, but I am unsure how this will make the potential employer feel. Any ideas?

I just have a question regarding references when applying for a new job. Is it a 'must' to give my current nurse manager's contact info as a reference? If I tell my manager that I am trying to change my job by asking her to give me a good reference, the manager would certainly be unhappy. In case I was unsuccessful and I needed to stay on my current job, my relationship with my manager would be kinda difficult. So I don't think I will use my NM's name as a reference, but I am unsure how this will make the potential employer feel. Any ideas?

I agree with allantiques4me. It's wrong to assume that a previous shift nurse did not do catheterization just because the amount of urine you obtained was a lot.

The people who created this idea must be people who have never worked a single night shift in LTC!

My first job in nursing, although it was short, was long term care, and I worked only nights. What made me wonder was that when urine C+S needs to be done, days and evening shifts leave that work for nights. Why is that? Is that a particular reason? Does it sound similar in your LTCF as well?

wow unbelievable. Thank god.. that never happened to me...

That's exactly what constantly worries me too.... I don't work in a typical hospital setting so the chances of code blues are very low here. And that's why I am very reluctant to leave this place, even though I don't think I will make a good nurse here. whew....

I also think 8 months are okay enough to leave.

What if the training period was less than two weeks?

My boyfriend is an RN too I am still a newbie, and he is a nurse with a couple of years of experience, which is so good because I can ask tons of stupid questions :monkeydance:

I totally agree with Lindarn's points as well...!!

"Says, "I would NEVER quit my job here, I love the residents too much" even as they're filling out applications" But then, are we supposed to say or express some kind of desire to leave when we are considering about changing jobs?