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There is only a handful of them as you stated yourself. Not their fault, but the state needs to hire a much larger staff force. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

I'd just skip BSN/MSN based on your goals.

CSUs will provide you the best bang for the buck, as well as historically established clinical rotations/networking. My little birdie(s) from UCLA tells me that the performance from UCLA graduates are slightly lacking.

I don't even know why you are even considering. Look at that buff commute, time is money. Put in your notice when you get your written offer. You've been thinking about it long enough if you know all that info

Look up ucsf's pay scale, it's online for public viewing. Expect -15 to +10 from what ucsf offers, depending on institution. Only a couple places match or pay more than ucsf.

First world problems. Just get whatever is cheaper and will last you through school. Chances are it'll last you several of your first years of work. You won't even know the difference with noobie ears. I still use the disposable ones at work. I don't know why a fnp would ever recommend a $300+ stethoscope to a student still learning what s3/s4 sounds like.

Why are you "terrified?" Terrifying to me is giant dinosaur with rockets mounted on his back trying to eat me. Let's not make it sound like your life is done. Homeopathic medicine is completely valid in terms of study and as a nurse, awareness. The first paragraph is on point. As a nurse you will be assessing patient history and meds /supplements taken at home, which may be cultural or not and can affect your care. You WILL be tested to a some extent in nursing pharmacology medication interactions/contraindications. Whether you believe in it doesn't matter, but many of your patients will. As a nurse you're going to have recognize that this, among a billion of other things you may not personally care for, but it is necessary to consider in a patients plan of care. Or you can drop it, no big deal. There are more narrow minded topics out there.

Most will go out of town, county state. It's one of the most saturated markets in the US, and it is easy to fill gaps with travelers. I will go into slightly more depth about fnps in our area from what I mentioned earlier. Most fnps will make even less if you are not associated with an acute institution. My comparison earlier was my job v np in ucsd. Expect to make 5-15 less/hr as an np in a clinic etc if you find employment. 35$/ hr at a little clinic? Yikes. You're already starting more as a new grad (I hope). There are a ton of nurses with their np still working bedside because it's stupid how less they make as a np, or how much time is required, or the job opportunities aren't there. I feel like there are more opportunities with ICU experience. 2 of my previous peers found jobs in trauma and surgical icus(dnp) with the later trying to come back for a clinic position, one we hired returned to the bedside, a few just graduated or in school with very low prospects of keeping years of service within ucsd. I personally think getting a fnp with work in San Diego is a horrible investment. But that's just my opinion, along with many whom already put in time at the bedside here. If finances isn't your top concern, then that's a different story.

Also with finances up there.. Unless becoming an fnp is your ultimate desire, it's not worth it especially in our market. You won't make significant more (you make less per hour as a salaried staff), will have more student debt. I don't know your personal situation with family but you mentioned you want to save up for a home and retirement. Id personally just look into image tech or even stick with bedside vs advanced practice. More likely working days, reasonable comfortable wages, no debt. I will start crna school soon and it will take me about 8 years of work before I profit compared to sticking with what I do now. That's if I return/get a job in San Diego. It was brought up a couple of times that cc pass rates could be higher. That doesn't really say anything at all, in all honesty. And when it comes to requirements, they'll steer towards BSNs, and the application pool is huge. You're applying against of pool of individuals across the US, so keep that in mind.

You are right about most acute facilities in San Diego. Most will only hire new grads with their BSNs, or enrolled in a bsn+ program. Just consider if it's worth potentially not being able to work right away, let alone get accepted into a lottery program. Time is money. And it's not impossible to get a job with an adn in San Diego, but highly unlikely even if you knew people. If it's going to take an additional year or 3 to get into an adn program locally there's no point financially since it's the priority topic. If you can get yourself a position in a local cc program the same time as this BSN program, I'd consider that and get yourself into a BSN bridge program asap, move for your first job or both.

I always see people jumping the ship for California, but understand California is a huge state and the offerings vary greatly by region. Raised in the south bay, went to school in the central valley, worked my BSN career in Socal. You can make 130k in norcal but rent can be 3k+ for a 1br apartment or less than 2 in the east bay. Even a 2/2 in Oakland is going to run you close to 3k. You make a tad less in the central valley but cost of living drops significantly. In southern California you earn about a third less but renting is proportionately high. The rental market is outpacing wage increses quickly, especially in the bay area of course.

I work in a burn unit. Our a&o patients often recieved oxy q4hrs or even more frequently, with prn breakthrough iv, and additional prn iv + po for wound care, and scheduled oxycontin. These patients still co pain 10/10 even at rest. You've reported it, set it and forget it.

My region only has 1 acnp program. I work in a burn ICU and my nps are fnps, along with many fnp friends I know working in a variety of acute/cc settings.

It's highly regional and subjective per organization. Fnp doesn't mean you can't practice in critical care, I know several friends doing primary care going strait to acute care. They also have most of their RN experience in critical care. You definitely do get more clinical exposure in a acnp program.

You're going to have to take it regardless to get to RN school. If you get so easily discouraged you need to manage who your real support systems are. Work hard, manage your time well, eat well, ask for that raise, invest in yourself if getting that RN is what you want. Having support is nice. You want it, but you don't need it. They must really believe you can't do it if you're persuaded that easily.

Radys and ucsd has a very strong relationship. The attendings and anesthesiologists, specifically in the burn center, cross cover at Radys as well. We have been assisted by their teams (ID, renal etc) quite a bit as our population includes both peds and adults.

Study hard and go directly into a BSN program.. Or asn to start. Work as a CNA after you get into a RN program. Majority of the hospitals in sd are magnet and highly prefer bsns. Save time by doing it right the first time around.

I'd stay clear from memorial. Shoot for DMC or even Kaiser. Make sure DMC knows you are in a BSN program, it is highly preferred. Went to CSU Stanislaus and did clinicals at both. Memorial is a pretty horrible place, lots of union and management issues.

Try posting in the ca thread perhaps. I'm a previous Stan grad

In the end I'd probably just go back to practicing as a chiropractor instead of getting your rn as well. Dump the wife, restart your practice else where, move on with life.

My gf and her family is filipino, and what you say your wife claims is hocus pocus. A lot of first generation Filipinas(RNs) are the primary source of income in the US. Your priorities are your immediate self and family. Culture aside, (which isnt viable to me personally) I don't believe she is being considerate toward you or your future. I'll keep it civil and leave it at that. You discussed mostly financial aspects from Md to RN, so I'm sure lifestyle differences isn't your biggest concern. Evaluate it if you haven't. But long term wise, bust out excel and graph your income/loan relationships with debt comparing the 2 careers. Pursuing nursing will take several years longer since you have to take the prerequisites, and apply in and who knows how long you have to wait or how far. See how long it takes you to break even or profit when finish school and work vs starting over for as a RN. If it was me, I'd stick it out since youve already invested and put time in med school... And drop the wife and put my future and career first. I'm not sure if you would get the best and most useful responses here. Maybe a relationship forum or.. a lawyer. The career itself is irrelevant. Too many things to consider like access to schools, regional needs, market demand etc.

Use that money you'd be wasting and help those really in need. That kind of tuition for a nursing salary is nowhere near reasonable even if you can afford la rent and loan repayments. And if you can afford paying that much monies in cash I'd rather out that down toward a home/investment.

I was offered an interview for today but declined. Admissions are definitely on going.

Take the damn shot.

At this point maybe you need to research each program individually to know a ton. And maybe the market in California for nurses. Are these direct entry BSN programs? I wouldn't spend a ton of money over the name brand of am ivy league or private school, the amount of debt to income ratio isn't worth it. Plus you don't have the networking of local clinicals, staff and managers. So why haven't you mentioned any of the CSUs? Without a doubt, best education in ca and the reputation follows with large local institutions. And what's wrong with AP having a small campus or UCI being a commuter school?