Tommy5677

I'm not far behind you and graduated in '80. I too could have most any position I wanted until about 10 years ago. Now all the ads are either BSN preferred or required. I remember the days (I'm on the verge of retirement so that gives you a clue...

But the unfortunate part is that the ADNs have been relegated to nursing homes. Not to take away from nursing homes but there should be more options. If you don't want ADNs in management, fine, but don't take away hospital bedside. The notion that BS...

I would probably agree with this but in a different way. I would encourage people to get the ADN, take the NCLEX, get a job, and then enroll in a RN-BSN program. It's likely that in the long run it will cost less money. The only deterrent I can see t...

It's an opinion

I'm in total agreement. Many with a BSN who got their ADN first will tell you it's nothing but fluff (community health and research, neither of which is on the NCLEX) There are also many BSNs, including one here, that will tell you stats show BSNs nu...

Did you see where post COVID nurse salaries are plummeting? That's how much hospitals and admins think of you. As Boomers continue to age, we are heading for a serious crisis, as if we don't already have one.

Wow. I just learned how to do a simple algebra calculation for that one

43 Years ago I received my ASN from a private university. We started with 66 and graduated 32 so yes, there is a weeding out process. Also, when I did the ASN I did the entire thing in 2 years, including 2 semesters in the summers, which is kind of n...

Whatever you say. I'm apparently not allowed to disagree with you.

Finally, a voice of reason. Thank you for your post.

He gave it to the wrong patient and nearly killed her.

It doesn't matter because no one will hire her anyway. It's all moot. I never said she should return to any hands on clinical area. There are nonclinical things she can do that require a RN but people here don't even want her doing that. I think ther...

Thank you for that. They could still do case management (believe it or not) and prior authorization. Things that require a RN. What about nursing informatics or something of that nature? Well, for that she would probably need a MSN. I think most of t...

I get it and you're right. I'm just no longer interested in the post.

I seem to be the only one here willing to cut her some slack. Even with putting limitations on her practice everyone here seems to have a need to crucify her. Maybe this isn't the right forum to ask such a question.

With your line of thinking no nurse would ever have a chance against the BON. I'm certainly glad you're not sitting on one. I would be OK with her screwing up a claim or a work comp case? Are you serious? Because she was grossly negligent with refere...

At least one nurse here would beg to differ. She believes the research showing better patient outcomes with a BSN where the university providing the research has a BSN program, is valid. Mmm hmm. In an ideal world we would have all BSN's but this is ...

I think that she should have her license reinstated but not fully unencumbered. She should be restricted in the types of work she can do. No clinical. She could do any number of things: case management, work comp, health coaching, etc. Give the girl ...

This is one of the ways BSN prepared nurses attempt to belittle ADNs. I did all the above you cite here with an ADN. Yeah, it's called home health care, or HHC which I did for the same company for 7 years. The things you list here are basic nursing c...

I never did CM but I was a Medicare health coach for BCBS for 11 years with an ADN in the early 2000s. No one ever questioned it. When I moved to the East Coast in '15 Anthem BCBS had an ad for the exact position I was doing in Oregon. With 11 years ...

I guess I should clarify. It's only a bad thing when you have been relegated to it. ADN nurses can rarely find positions anywhere else, including case management. Definitely not school nursing and even then it wouldn't matter if I had 20 years ER exp...

When I did Medicare HHC in the 90's I did it with an ADN (I prefer ASN since that's what I have). I was the respiratory lead and traveled all over the city of Las Vegas (outside my territory) because many others were reluctant. When I worked as a Med...

The profession of nursing can do whatever it wants or sees fit. I get the BSN thing on several levels but one person referred to getting the RN to BSN as "fluff". It's not right to continue the ADN programs and then relegate them to nursing homes. I...

Then it's intentionally misleading.

With regards to better patient outcomes with BSN's, if the University of Penn has a BSN program with associated hospitals, that is not objective, independent research. Please try again.