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  1. I've been in healthcare for 10 years and an RN for 4 months. The tone of your recent post was honest and not hostile. The posts of the first 7 or 9 pages were hostile towards students. The idea of having to teach was "not my job." Are there other factors at play? Of course...BUT...It seemed that there was cheering on to the mantra of ALL students are "entitled" "snowflakes" and screw the bastards for thinking that they can tap into my knowledge base. My criticism is that we could do better than that. During our orientations as students and new employees, they ENCOURAGE us to ask questions; they encourage us to tap into the knowledge base around us. I was taught by my CI in most cases and by my nurse some of the time. Yes, it would be great if the CIs didn't disappear and were always there to teach. During my schooling, most CIs were around and attentive. Some were not around; for those days, I was grateful that I had amazing nurses that taught me.
  2. So, if life kicks you in the butt, there will be casualties in the work place? It is the real world and in the real world, people in the caring business should try to care. If that includes knowing that you are having a crummy day or a crummy life, self-assess, acknowledge it, do your best not to take it out on others. Trying is the best that some of us can do. It's sad when people stop trying.
  3. "Sarcasm" "It's not that complicated." "Naive" "Melodramatic and silly" The above comments reinforce the negative attitudes that are pervasive in the profession and that we should want to move away from embodying. I love reading the posts on AN because they provide insight into the process of other nurses. Sadly, it also includes abusive language and behavior that is indicative of nursing incivility. The incivility is then perpetuated with "mob mentality" and the "yeah! that's how I learned!" It does nothing to push the profession forward. Personally, I don't think ethics for a profession are silly or melodramatic. I think that a profession whose tenets embody caring, like nursing, needs a moral compass like the ANA code of Ethics. The standards are high and hard to reach but it doesn't mean that we should stop trying.
  4. Wow...there is so much anger on this thread. During my first job in retail clothing, I learned a valuable lesson. "Everyone has bad days, drama, etc. Life happens...but, when you walk through those doors" and the manager pointed at the store entrance, "the bad day, the attitude, all that negative stuff stays outside." Fast forward 20 years, it seems like that's a lesson that anyone involved in a position that works with clients and colleagues should still aim to master. Here are my thoughts: OP, I appreciate your point about having had nurses that may not have been engaging or may have been rude. Unfortunately, the tone felt like the "blame game" and the result was a textbook response of people defending themselves because they feel as if they are under attack. Communication is key to any enterprise succeeding. Apparently, that "Professional Roles as a Nurse" course did have some value. Now, the interesting thing about perpetrators of domestic violence is that they feel that they were in the right because their spouse was so "stupid" or "should have known better" than to trigger the angry reaction. It isn't someone else's responsibility to "not trigger" you, it is your responsibility to control your emotions and leave the negative stuff at the door. I see nurses name calling, and displaying other behaviors that do qualify as "nursing incivility." The "sink or swim" attitude that follows "that's how I learned to be a nurse," or "you are a special snowflake because you expect courtesy" does not produce a therapeutic milieu. As nurses, it is our job to refrain from incivility. Nurses, please remember your ANA Nursing code of Ethics. Provision 1.5 calls for the respectful treatment of your colleagues and others. The principle of respect for persons extends to all individuals with whom the nurse interacts. The nurse maintains compassionate and caring relationships with colleagues and others with a commitment to the fair treatment of individuals, to integrity-preserving compromise, and to resolving conflict. Nurses function in many roles, including direct care provider, administrator, educator, researcher, and consultant. In each of these roles, the nurse treats colleagues, employees, assistants, and students with respect and compassion. This standard of conduct precludes any and all prejudicial actions, any form of harassment or threatening behavior, or disregard for the effect of one's actions on others. The nurse values the distinctive contribution of individuals or groups, and collaborates to meet the shared goal of providing quality health services. nursingworld.org/provision-1#five As far as teaching / mentoring not being a part of your job, please remember provision 7 of the ANA Nursing code of Ethics. As a nurse, it is our duty to be in mentorship roles, disseminate information, and train others in order to advance the profession. nursingworld.org/provision-7#three Finally, I will reference a great post that some of you may have already seen. I think that the anger, preconceptions, and attitudes in this thread highlights the points of the post. https://allnurses.com/nurses-rock/incivility-beyond-the-995334.html
  5. Hi! Has anyone interviewed for the american mobile nursing position for new grads?
  6. @Toya932 - Thank you! @elchavito and @Toya932 - I'm getting nervous too...I'm debating whether or not to apply to LIU.
  7. I too applied for Fall 2013 entry. My gpa is a 3.79 and I scored a 95 on the HESI. When I spoke to the director, Dr. ****, she told me that they solely focus on your prereqs and your HESI score. They don't look at work experience nor your undergraduate GPA. We should hear back in June with an admissions decision...the administrative assistant said the second week in June. Although, I saw in an earlier post, last year, they let the class know by June 8th. I'm hoping that translates to June 7th for us. I put all my eggs in this one basket. I hope it pays off.
  8. I called today. The woman that answered told me "around mid-february." According to the boards last year, they were notified February 7th but they were given hint by the admissions office that they MAY have a decision by the end of the week. She gave me no indication that the end of the week was an option. At this point, for me, it's all about stalking the website.
  9. I applied to Lehman because since I already have a degree, I really only want to take what I need for nursing. I know someone in the nursing program at Hunter and she had to take music, english, history and a number of courses that they felt would make her more "well rounded." That's fine if someone doesn't have a degree, but after a degree, the accelerated program should be more focused.
  10. I graduated in the early 90's. Recently, I needed my HS transcript and when they sent it to me, I realized that they did poor data entry. Some state exams don't show. Some grades are inaccurate. I guess they figured no one will ever notice...who knows.
  11. Also, keep in mind that Gen Chem for nurses is easier than Gen Chem for Science students. Many years ago, I thought I wanted to be a physician and started the pre-med route. I took Gen Chem 1 for science majors and got a C. I changed my mind and graduated with a BA in something else. Two years ago, I went back and started the nursing pre-reqs at a local community college. I took Gen Chem 2 for nurses, and I completed the course with an A+. It was so much easier. You still had to do work, but it wasn't as laborious as the science students' Chem course. In addition, you have many options for the type of pre-reqs, depending on where you want to get your nursing degree. Some schools will allow online classes for the pre-reqs, some may not require laboratories (usually the ones ok with online prereqs), etc.
  12. This is hilarious! Thanks for the laughs!
  13. I work across the street from the School of Nursing. It takes all of my willpower to not walk in and ask if they'll please tell me.
  14. Yes, I received it the emails. They have a new deadline because of it, November 19th. I followed up with them and my status has now changed. [TABLE=width: 400] [TR] [TD=class: BasePageFont]Submission Status: Submitted[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD=class: BasePageFont]Submitted Date: [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD=class: BasePageFont]Application complete. Your file has been forwarded to Admissions Committee for review.[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Fingers and toes are officially crossed. :)
  15. I'm planning to apply for the 2013 class. I'm nervous and am taking a leap of faith. My undergraduate gpa is laughable. I wasn't a dedicated student when I graduated 16 years ago. I am doing very well in my prereqs. I am missing two more prereqs and taking micro now and will take orgo in the fall. I'm going to try to get into the anesthesia program. My goal is to take the GRE in August. I attended the information session in 2011. This is definitely what I want to do. If I don't get into Columbia, my backup is Lehman College. I'm not going to a worse school that costs about about as much. I'd rather get a CUNY (affordable/no loans) BSN, work a year, and apply to the MSN for anesthesia. Good luck everyone!

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