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According to this info on the CNO website http://www.cno.org/Global/new/NCLEX/Canadia_NCLEX_FAQs_toPost.pdf Americans and Canadians will be writing the same exam. Check it out, lots of info on the subject

hello ladies and gents, i was wondering if anybody could tell me their opinion of what it means to be a professional nurse from the perspective of nursing standards. i am a first year nursing student and still trying to grasp the concept. maybe some of you have recently learned this and could help me out? thanks!:)

Georgian is actually opening a brand new health sciences facility this fall. Brand new classrooms, equipment, and even a birthing simulator. Barrie campus would definitely be the best choice. You can take your prereq's through any upgrading center, I know the Collingwood campus offers them for free, and I think you have to pay at the Barrie campus, but I'm not sure. Don't quote me on this, but I also think you can start the upgrading courses at any time as it is mainly independent learning (in Collingwood anyway)

you can apply for pre health through ontariocolleges.ca (search for prhs). once your in pre health you can apply to the colleges of your choice once they start accepting applications. i would suggest taking pre health at the college you want to attend for your nursing program as you have an advantage already being a student there. they consider you a college transfer instead of a mature student or highschool applicant. if you actually want to learn and are serious about the program it is very beneficial to take pre health and i think it gives you a little extra preparedness once you enter the nursing program. you will have already been in college for a year and know what professors expect of you. hope that helps!:)

hi! i had an 87% avg last semester. i haven't received a letter about the acceptance yet (just the ocas offer) so i'm not exactly sure what i have to keep my average at this semester. i know a girl who got in for the bscn winter 2011 intake with her first semester pre health credits (she also had previous life experience and a degree in something else) and her condition was to keep her math and chem above 80%, so i assume it would probably be similar. i'm sure the gpa minimum is different for each school though, so check with your registrars office. good luck! :)

i got my acceptance to georgian today:yeah:for the bscn program in september. it's a conditional acceptance providing i keep my pre health marks up this semester. i also got accepted at seneca but chose georgian, i think it's a better school, closer to my home and i am already familiar with the campus. plus their building a brand new health sciences facility set to open in september. i'm so excited! you should hear soon if (if not already) if you were accepted first round. if you haven't heard anything yet don't sweat it, lots of people get acceptances and choose to go to other schools, leaving the opportunity for you. good luck!

i was told not to expect any news until after the equal consideration date for applications which is february 1st. even then you won't hear unless you were accepted in the first round of students. it could take months! i'm dying of anticipation as well, but nothing to worry about yet. good luck!:)

i'm sure if you have done nothing wrong the cno will vote in your favour (or whatever it is that they do?). i'm just winging it here, but i'm sure that they are probably required to investigate you and your personal life after receiving a complaint such as the one they received from your employer - so they can determine if the accusations are true or not. there are similar boards/ rules for all public professions ie. police, doctors, paramedics, counselors etc. if there's nothing to find then everything will be fine. personally, i'm glad that there are people doing this job, it lets me feel better about the people who are caring for me when i am ill or hospitalized - but i do feel for you in the fact that you are going through this because of false accusations. if it is found that your employer was in the wrong, or went too far with minor issues, than i hope there are consequences for their actions. good luck:)

What did you not like about York if you don't mind me asking? I've heard that from a few other people as well.

I'm not sure what you mean about specific to BScN or practical nursing. Pre health is designed to prep you for many types of health care programs, not just nursing. It gives you the pre requisites you need to apply to those programs, plus extra courses like Critical Thinking, Health Care in Canada, and some gen-eds of your choice. I am attending Georgian, but most colleges offer very similar programs.

I know that Georgian and Seneca both end up at York, But Humber's program is a collab with University of New Brunswick, so all 4 years are done AT Humber. It seems as though there are less courses to to as compared to the other two as well. Has anyone attended either of these Colleges, and/or have an opinion on the program? How about York, whats it like there?

All you need for pre health is English. I didn't even graduate highschool and got in with just my GED.

if you want to bring your pre-req marks up without going back to high school you can do correspondence courses on your own time (through the ilc - google it- independent learning center) or take a pre health sciences program at your local college. that's what i'm doing right now (pre health) and it's a great refresher, especially if you've been out of school for a bit. both rpn and rn programs are highly competitive and there is a slim chance you will get in with anything less than a 75 - 80% avg in your math, bio, english and chemistry. pre health will also prep you for your hoae test - this is the assessment test done to get into rpn, paramedic, dental hygeine etc. (health occupation aptitude exam). the best thing to do is contact a college of your choice and ask them directly. to see what schools have the programs your interested in go to ontariocolleges.ca :) hope this helps!

hi! i was just wondering if anyone had any opinions on georgian, humber (north campus), or seneca (king campus) for the bscn program. i am currently at georgian in pre-health and i have applied to the three colleges listed for september start. i'm fairly confident i will be accepted (fingers crossed!) into at least one as i had an 87% avg last semester. i would really like to go to georgian as it is the shortest commute for me, and i'm already familiar with the campus and such. i know i probably shouldn't pick a school based on location, but it's necessary because i can't just up and move wherever i want. if anyone has studied at either of the 3 colleges i would love your opinions on the staff and the campus! also, if there is a college you attended that would be completely worth a longer commute let me know! thanks:)

I don't think it's an illness either. But it is a condition, just like eczema, acne or IBD for that matter. :) And I'm definitely not trying to put anyone down or single people out. I'm sure your great at your job! I was just curious.

Thank you Chinook! You seem to be the only one who actually read any of my posts. I actually emailed the CNA on this subject and the response I got may surprise those of you who think that there are no regulations on a mental illness. I was told the exact same thing that is posted on the College website. "graduates wishing to be registered will be asked by the College of Nurses of Ontario to sign a declaration of their status regarding not be suffering from a physical or mental condition that makes it desirable in the public interest that he or she not practice. An applicant for registration who does not meet one or more of these requirements must inform CNO and provide details about the incident or situation. The applicant will not be necessarily refused registration because CNO's Registration Committee will review information about the incident or situation to determine if an exemption from the requirement(s) will be granted. An applicant for registration, who does not inform CNO, may have the application for registration canceled, or any certification of registration which may have been issued revoked." They informed me that this also applies to ADHD. All I wanted to know. This started out as simple curiosity from a student and has somehow turned into a ridiculous battle of prejudice and discrimination. I don't know how most of you derived that conclusion from my original post. And as for your comments Balder- I'm not the only one saying that if someone has any mental health dx then they should be "assessed to ensure proper patient care", that's coming straight from the CNO. Are they wrong as well? But shouldn't you know this info as someone who had to sign a form stating they didn't have any disorders? And your "examples" are a little extreme don't you think? Now you're the one being judgmental of me, assuming I'm silly enough to think that way. And if you think mental health is not a serious issue, you are the one who is misinformed, because it is. Like I said, I've had first hand experience with it and there are some things I have gone through that I wouldn't wish upon anyone. Maybe that's where my so called "discrimination" stems from. People can be completely competent and normal for years, and with the snap of a finger, they lose it. So don't try and tell me that people treat mental health issues like substance abuse or whatever you were going for there. But that is completely different from my initial question anyway! To quote myself again, in case you didn't catch it the first time " I'm not looking to pass judgment or say that anyone is incapable, I'm just curious to know how situations where common mental health issues are looked at. " But it doesn't matter anyway, I've learned not to ask simple questions to people who don't know the answer, it just upsets them. Next time I have a question I'll just go straight to the source, like I had to do anyway. The didn't jump down my throat, just gave me the answer I was looking for. Thanks for all your help!:)

Well, lf this is true then Georgian needs to update their website because under the PRHS outline it says: "Upon successful completion of the program, the student will be able to apply for admission to the first year of a health science program, whether at Georgian College or other colleges. Every effort is made to assist students to select courses which will provide them with optimum transfer credits to other college and university programs." I am definitely going to look into this! Thanks Guys:)

Really?? I'm taking Pre-health @ Georgian and was never told that was limited to where I can apply with this cert. In fact we were told to keep all of our program outlines for when another school asked for them. You are earning college credits so they should be accepted as pre-reqs for any school. I would double check that before you skip out on applying for another school. You can apply to 5, so you should apply to that amount, if you can't get into Fanshawe, then maybe you could get in somewhere else right? Or wait until the following year and try again if that's where you want to go. Good luck in whatever you choose!

I agree with what all of you are saying, I just wouldn't want someone to spend 4 years and alot of money on their education and not be able to get their license to practice. The reason I asked if anyone knew the exact regulations is because Georgian College states in thier program outline for BScN that: "Note: The College of Nurses of Ontario (CNO), the body responsible for regulating nursing in Ontario, sets entry to practice requirements that nurses and practical nurses must meet to become registered in Ontario. CNO's mission is to regulate nursing to protect the public interest. Among CNO's entry to practice requirements are provisions specifically intended to enhance public safety. These provisions require that applicants for registration in Ontario: a) have not been found guilty of a criminal offence or an offence under the Narcotic Control Act (Canada) and the Foods and Drug Act (Canada); b) not have been the subject of a finding of professional misconduct, incompetence or incapacity, whether in Ontario or in another jurisdiction and whether in relation to the nursing profession or another health profession; c) not currently be the subject of proceedings for professional misconduct, incompetence or incapacity, whether in Ontario or in another jurisdiction and whether in relation to the nursing profession or another health profession; d) not be suffering from a physical or mental condition that makes it desirable in the public interest that he or she not practice. An applicant for registration who does not meet one or more of these requirements must inform CNO and provide details about the incident or situation. The applicant will not be necessarily refused registration because CNO's Registration Committee will review information about the incident or situation to determine if an exemption from the requirement(s) will be granted. An applicant for registration, who does not inform CNO, may have the application for registration cancelled, or any certification of registration which may have been issued revoked." It wouldn't be fair for a student to get through school, pass the exam, and then find out it was all a waste of time. And also, I don't think that I am being judgemental or discriminating. These things should definitely be assessed to ensure proper patient care. If the person is competent than that is fine. I have had alot of first hand experience with mental illness in my family (not just my brothers ADHD), so I know how quickly things happen and situations can change if someone decides to stop taking their meds. This is what made me want to pursue a career in nursing, and be able to help people. I'm not looking to pass judgement or say that anyone is incapable, ( I wouldn't be surprised to learn that I myself have ADHD) I'm just curious to know how situations where common mental health issues are looked at.

Well there has to be some sort of regulation. It's not discrimination if it could affect patient care. Not necessisarily with ADHD, but any sort of mental disorder. Can someone who is bi-polar or schizophrenic become an RN? I would hope not. And with ADHD, do you not think patient care could be affected? My brother has it, and unless he is taking his meds, his ability to process information, and pay attention is greatly affected. What if, say a nurse was not paying attention to the proper dose of meds that was called for, and a patient was administered a life threatening dose? I'm not saying that they shouldn't be allowed to practice, I'm just curious as to what sort of governing there is for stuff like that. And is there a difference for RN an RPN health Regs b/c an RN is involved in more critical thinking decisions?

hi, i am currently in a pre health sciences program, and will be applying for a college/university collaborative bscn program next year. there are some students in my classes that have adhd and are also applying for the same course. what are the health requirements for being an rn in ontario? will they be allowed to write the crne? just curious. thanks!:)

I have a few questions for you and I'm hoping you can answer!! I am starting Pre health at Georgian in Barrie in Sept b/c I didn't have the pre requisites for any of the nursing programs. Were you able to apply for the RPN even though you hadn'nt finished your pre health? Do you know if the PN admissions test there would be the same as the HOAE (health occupations aptitude exam) that they have at Georgian? Also, if you want to be an Rn, why aren't you taking a collaborative program for just BScN, it would take you less school time. The one we have here is 2 years at Georgian @ years at York. I know they offer them at many GTA colleges as well. Congrats by the way!

Good Luck!!!:)