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Collective "punishments" like the one described are not caused by a few irresponsible people using their cellphones rudely, but rather by a lazy, and sneering culture in the management. Levin.

True, this happened to us on a couple of placements. Cheers, Levin

RE: SC/IM I was thinking about this earlier. In light of what SD said, I think it's probably because Hydroxy-cobalamin would not be very lipid soluable. So giving it SC wouldn't seem to make much sense. Wheras Cyano-cobalamin probably is more lipid soluable(I haven't checked this so I'mnot sure). But yeah 2 different forms of B-12 with signifigant differences in how they can be used and administered. Good to know. :) Levin

Hydroxy-Cobalamin Chloride is IM Only(with rare exceptions). There is another variant called Cyanocobalamin. I don't know if you can give that SC. Do you know which variant you use SD? IV B-12 can cause some quite nasty reactions. To the best of my knowledge it is only used IV in rare emergent circumstances. (e.g. The Hydroxy variant IIRC can be used for Cyanide poisoning.) Levin

Yeah I've always used them. Levin

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7238142.stm "Mr Ramos-Horta was shot in a pre-dawn attack on his Dili home, and later airlifted to Australia for treatment. He received three gunshot wounds - one in the stomach and two in the chest - and his condition is described as 'serious but stable'. " Levin

It could just be a local variance, I only have data for Australia but the rates vary between the range 60/40(M/F) and 40/60(M/F) over the years. Levin

There fixed it for you Levin P.S. Good luck with the Job hunting.

Also the fact that we have the subsidised education and access to nursing journals, i think has benefits for patients and the wider health system as well. Levin

Well I find my union dues very modest. For them I get. * Professional indemnity insurance. * Free access to nursing journals online. * A nursing library. * Workcover top up insurance. * Subsidised education and training. * Can bank with the police credit union.(No bank fees) * Bulk billed at the union clinic. * DIscounted house and car insurance. Amongst others. As well as the standard representation in disputes and negotiating of workplace agreements and advocacy in the political sphere So yeah I think it's a good thing. Levin

Grace Oz, Rudd was pretty upfront about his intentions. This was from February last year. http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,21269514-5001028,00.html Levin P.S. Personally I think we should get out of Afghanistan as well, unless someone can show me HOW having our military there is helping. That the coalition has partnered with the Northern Alliance says it all really. Contrary to what the press tells you the Northern Alliance are not nice people, they sure as anything aren't "freedom fighters". From my understanding of it, the NA are thugs who rape and kill because they felt like it that day, and the Taliban are nutcases who kill you for crimes like "singing". Generalisations I know but neither are very appealing options.

Howard looks like he has lost his seat. Well he did say he wanted to make history. Only the second PrimeMinister EVER to lose his seat while still PM. Levin

Does your software have progress notes? If so then you could document the reason the drugs were scanned late in them. Regards, Levin

It's probably lupus P.S. very common, happens to med students as well. Regards, Levin

http://www.nbv.org.au/faq/registration-faq.aspx and http://www.nbv.org.au/contact.aspx Might prove helpful, Levin.

You pinch the skin with a subcutaneous injection to increase the size of the lipid layer. Makes it less likely that the injection goes into a muscle, Letting the pinch go before you inject would be defeating the purpose of doing.it. Cheers, Levin

OK. That worries me a little bit, because the forearm has 2 bones. And all (well most) of the important stuff, gets run down between them, veins, arteries, nerves etc. Which would make it rather hard for the torniquet to compress them. Unlike the upper arm where it can compress the vein against the single bone. At least that is my understanding of it. Levin

I'm glad it worked out so well. :) Well done. Levin

You really have to understand the subculture. If you want to deal with it. Shelters are often not safe places. Many have serious violance issues, that goes for womens and youth shelters as well. Odds are you treat more homeless people than you realise, it's just that since they don't behave anti-socially and don't smell you'd never dream of thinking they were homeless, because of the stereotype that exists. Levin.

Found something official on all this. Documents from the Ministry of Health and the Prime Ministers office. http://www.pm.gov.au/media/Release/2007/Media_Release24555.cfm Cliff Notes: So now it's changed again, public hospitals can get it too. Because clinical placements and grad years didn't exist before today. I guess like TAFE provides now. Free Golden Staph with every lecture session Seriously why does paper and pencil stuff have do be done in a hospital, does it endow it with some kind of sacred halo or something? Current traineeships, you do your work at the age care and your study at the TAFE. My reading of that is only 500 additional students a year AFTER the first five years. Across the entire country Additional Source Material: http://www.health.gov.au/internet/wcms/publishing.nsf/Content/work-nurse-schools-fact I suspect a few private hospitals with a VERY high failure rate at the 3 months point. Not all, some are decent and well run, but pity the poor students at the ones who aren't. Then I sure hope the testing is done by an independant body. Well I'm not going to rag on that aspect of it, 5,000 dollars is a nice handout They should try it in TAFE and Uni as well . Annual new places after first 5 years(best light) 500 per year assuming 100% retention.This recognises NO SUCH THING. :angryfire From the health ministries OWN website. Source: http://www.health.gov.au/internet/wcms/publishing.nsf/Content/health-investinginagedcare-summary-5-5-3.htmWell now we will have at best 5000 after 5 years. Why do I feel this is tinkering around the edges? Regards, Levin

Grace I am not, nor do I think others here are, dissing hospital trained nurses. Even if I believed hospital training was the way to go for the future, (which I don't think it is). I would still oppose this governments plan. This topic isn't supposed to be people chanting on each side of a street. "Uni nurses jump like frogs in and out of the water." "Hossy nurses jump like frogs in and out of the water." The topic is primarily about this particular plan. and the future of nursing education in a more general sense. You say you support the idea of hospital training. But do you support this governments idea of how to do that? Doesn't the fact that the government has been changing the plan wholesale every couple of hours make you question wether it is well thought out? I mean RN's at first, then EN's the 3 years to 18 months, now it's 12 months. To me that isn't fine tuning, it's drive-by policy making. Most people I have talked to, think that it could best be addressed by a hybrid model, for example, for EEN's do 2 years, then a mandatory (paid)grad year with at least 2 areas of work and for RN's 3 years and a paid grad year. Does anyone else here think that such a model would be an improvement over the current training model for EN's. Regards, Levin

One of the big issues I see here, is that all this experience will be very one dimensional. Working in one place, for 18 months would be nowhere near as good as working in 4 areas for 3 months each would be. Working for 18 months in an Age care centre does not teach you how to work in a hospital and vice-versa. Levin

Oh no, it gets WORSE! http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22420497-662,00.html Cliff notes: That is a blatant turn-around, the governments Press release said "Tafe Qualification equivalent to university." Shows how much government thought went into this, doesn't it. From: http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/blanket-rejection-of-pms-nursing-remedy/2007/09/14/1189276983713.html In other words, TAFE traineeships, which allready exist.Note originally it was going to be 3 years for RN's, now it's 18 months and for EN's. What a schermozzle this is turning into. But WAIT now it's only 12 months! From: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22421035-11949,00.html I think this is a .25 policy as in the level of BAC needed before it makes sense. Levin

Australian Broadcasting's AM interview is up (only 1.6M 56Kb modem users welcome). http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/news/audio/am/200709/20070914am04-nurses-training.mp3 Worth listening to: Abbot would be a laugh riot if he wasn't for real. And Lisa Fitzpatrick makes some good points in the second half. Levin

My understanding from all the news articles I have read is they will be paid a "training wage" which will be subsidised by the government.The phrase "Nurse for the dole" came to mind as I was reading. HEAR! HEAR! (Thumps fist on table). I just did the math you're right.Even if you take the most favourable assumptions. Favourable assumptions: 170 million over a 5 year programme. Assume that this was the 1st government program in history to run within it's budget. Assume that it has put out 1500 students at the end of that 5 years. Math: 170,000,000/1500 = 1,700,000/15 = Still 113,333 per grad. :uhoh21: Levin