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This is very discriminatory. How are we as men supposed to be prepared to do our jobs if we are not trained how to do them? I would wonder what the proper way to handle this would be. I think I would find the head of the nursing department at my school and ask them why they think it is acceptable for me to not be trained as fully as the women in the program. I would want to know why they are trained to cath men and I was not trained to cath women. I would want them to assume responsibility (possibly monetary) if a hospital did not hire me because I was not trained properly. Would I phrase it that harshly... not at first, but I would make sure I was getting the education I PAID for. I would make sure I was fully trained to enter this profession. To the women that are mad that men don't do, or attempt to do these procedures, maybe YOU need to go to the schools as well and ask about why you are discriminated against by the schools training the men to pass off, unnecessarily, their jobs to you. Problems change FIRST in education. We want to change the patient's view, but when the school personnel are not educated, or educating, that is the first thing that needs to change.

Or pay for the law suits when word gets out. Recruiters in just about every business are given a range. They try to get people in low, but raise up when they need to to get workers in the specialty they need. How many new grads would get no tuition reimbursement offers, and then they ask for it and they say, "oh yea, we can get you that." Same with sign on bonuses and such.

I think this is the key to the respect thing. Men are more likely to not accept being verbally abused. They speak up. The women that speak up are treated with the same respect, it's just that less speak up. Not just speaking up, but in a respectful way that still says it will not be accepted.

I'm male and know how to braid hair. Most of my friends growing up were female, My ex-wife and kids wanted me to braid their hair, and I learned to do it well. I think the point was he didn't bother to learn. If he had time and the conviction he could have learned to braid hair to make her feel more comfortable. If as a nurse you don't have time to do that then there is another issue. You don't have to, but if you have time, and you can make the patient/resident feel more comfortable, why not. I know time is normally the issue here.

I would believe it is possible for men to move up in many areas to management positions in nursing faster. Don't have stats to support that though. There are numerous treads that show men are normally treated with more respect IN GENERAL by doctors and other nurses. It's not all bad in other words. There are several issues I see here though. Patients who are uncomfortable with being cared for by a male I can deal with fine. They should be comfortable, and we need to respect that. The real issue that should be resolved FIRST is a management and administration view that needs that causes dangerous inequality. This is that when an allegation is made of sexual abuse, MEN get suspended with out pay, or fired, or looked at as a major liability, immediately. This affects their careers sometimes permanently, WHEN THEY DID NOTHING WRONG and the case is unfounded! Female nurses are often treated as the victims if they are reported. Yes an investigation is done, but many of them keep working and being paid. If the charge is unfounded they can go on with normally no ill effects. The hospital will stand behind the woman and crucify the man. This is where the true inequality lies.

VCU is working on starting a DNAP program pretty soon. It will be an optional program of 3 yrs instead of 28 mths for MSN.

It is very scary. If you ever check the sex offender registry and see how many sex offenders live near you, your kids school, ect. it will make you want to stay home with a gun. The XXXXX that raped my daughter gets out in a few months. You can be darn sure I would never accept him as a patient. There is no way I could provide him with proper care. I'd have enough trouble if he was on the same floor.

It doesn't even have to be a year. As soon as you have 1875, you can sit for the test. This normally takes close to a year, but if you work a lot of overtime, it could be far less.

I know this was hard for you to follow through with, but very important. I am very glad things are coming to a close for you. The biggest thing now is to report IMMEDIATELY if he tries to contact you. It can be hard to stay vigilant, but it will keep you safe. You should feel proud for staying strong. Keep up with the counseling.

i think you missed a few points on the tos. let me pull them out for you. no, not just for you, but these parts seem to get violated a lot in this forums. if these are followed this whole area of the boards will be much more pleasant to use. "remember what you agreed to upon signup: you will not use this bb to post free advertising or solicitations, any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise violative of any law. you agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyright is owned by you or by this bb. " "debates we promote the idea of lively debate. this means you are free to disagree with anyone on any type of subject matter as long as your criticism is constructive and polite. " far too many posts have been to argue points that are not even the focus of the topic. it can be very much constrewed as harrassing, hateful, or defamitory, especially when it keeps getting harped on over and over, even when so many are asking you to let it go. to take up an old quote, "why can't we all just get along?"

Fine, Whatever. Does anyone have info on CRNA curriculum and having sections on business of being a CRNA.

I've thought about this as well. I know that VCU recommends getting Organic Chem. Looking at that I need one Gen Chem and one Bio Chem for my BSN. My University offers 2 Organic Chem classes. If I took all of that all I would need is 2 more classes for a minor in chem. Seems like a little work may be beneficial, but not sure if it will actually help me.

I don't see it as shifting goalposts at all. The OP mentioned med school classes, but that was on the side lines. His post was asking about business training in CRNA school. Don't feel you need to justify something you said in a previous post. I don't get the feeling OP cares what they teach in med school. The "goal" was to find out about CRNA curriculum. I am interested in hearing about that as well.

It takes a good person to admit they overreacted. Thank you. Please try to ease into the group. It also has a lot of great people. Many have been put though a lot of disrespect for their chosen specialty though. This forum has tons of information and lots of help. I'd hate for you to be ostracized at the beginning.

I better one would be that sales people and fast food joints have clients and customers... I am caring for a patient. It needs to be obvious that we are in a medical situation, and the word patient makes that clear.

Not sure if this one has a calc, but has the info on it. Order by phone, fax , or mail. http://www.apsf.org/resource_center/newsletter/1995/winter/#art6 It's in the article about halfway down. APSF Clipboard Proves Hot Seller This one is for nurses, but has some of the info. http://www.standris.com/medical_clipboard.cfm

Not necessarily true. It is true for most people, but not all. I have worked several management jobs (not nursing yet) but was friends with my employees. They knew, however, that if they did wrong, I was going to act as a manager. If they needed a write-up they got it. If they needed to be let go, they would be. They also knew that I treated them fairly and justly. Is this the norm, no. I am just able to set clearly defined boundaries. You're my friend, but this is a work issue. It's like two totally different parts of the relationship, that are almost separate. Now, I have worked for MANY that could not do this. It is horrible for those that are not the suck-ups. If I was ever a manager at a place that said no fraternization, I would completely understand the rule and follow it. It should probably be the rule for most places.

You really need to do some research before posting such a bold statement There is a rather large shortage of ALL anesthetists right now. Some hospitals have had to shut down some ORs and cancel some elective surgeries. To cap the number of CRNAs or MDAs at this point would be irresponsible and detrimental to the patients. Another thing you don't seem to understand, platon20, is that CRNAs can preform the SAME JOB as MDAs and have virtually the same success rate, yet cost less to the patient. There are tons of studies that have been done on this. regardless of this fact the AANA has had to fight for the industry to recognize and respect these facts. Try to do just a little bit or research before making such bold statements. If you had just read a few of the pertinent threads on the CRNA boards, I don't think you would have said that.

This is the only thing that concerns me. Maybe I'm just not understanding the way you said it. Do you WANT to be a nurse? Sometimes it can be a very hard career, and those that don't WANT to be a nurse have a very hard time with it. It you really want it, there are ways. Community Colleges often have good ADN courses, and the Pre-reqs can be done part time. The clinicals normally must be done full time. Another option is to get your associate degree in applied arts and the go to a university that has an adult degree completion program. This would give you evening classes and you could get your BSN. Try talking to the Admission Councilors in the schools near you that have a nursing program and see what they have to offer. You can also normally check your Board of Nursing website and check the first time pass rate on taking the national boards. This is important in finding the best school in your area. The higher the pass rate, the better prepared the school's program. CA pass rates are at http://www.rn.ca.gov/schools/passrates.htm I myself am going to college at 33 YO and am in a Full time traditional BSN program. I have 2 kids and have been married 8 yrs... this time :) My kids are 15 and 12, and my youngest is disabled. My wife is very supportive and is able to be available during the day to handle issues with the kids. It's hard, but can be done if you set your mind to it

One thing that is nice about nursing is that there are so many options once you get there. There are lots of positions that you aren't likely to see this kind of trauma, and even some you don't even see patients. If your heart is in L&D then focus more on that. There are some heart breakers there too, but you can prepare yourself as best as you can for that. Many nurses have trouble with certain things in the beginning, but most of them pass. There are many threads about phobias and either getting over them or going to other positions.

Both Alcohol and hot peppers (or actually the capsicum in them) are vasodilators, especially if your not used to them. That could be all that is causing the redness. An allergy to them involves a bit more.

Not totally. It has much to do with why you are rich and famous. It it's from sports, or acting, singing... you get away with lots. If it's because you are the owner/CEO of a big multi-million/billion dollar cooperation then people are looking to string you up for your inadequacies and bring you down. Your right though. They are worth very little compared to a good Health Care Provider. Why do people think HCP's should get paid little? Maybe because they have to pay for medical bills. I guess they would rather get their health care at Wal-mart. Providers work hard for their money and have very high risk. If life was fair the good ones would make millions.

I have a friend that is allergic to latex and vinyl. Imagine that trouble trying to find gloves she is not allergic too.

I am a male victim of DV. My first wife was quite abusive. There weren't many days that she wasn't abusive in some way, mental, emotional, or physical. Most of the times she didn't physically hurt me, but she tried very often. Once she managed to blacken my eye and she also tried to stab me once though I caught her hand before it went very deep. Several times a week she would jump on my back and start hitting me in the back of the head. Luckily I was able to reach back and pull her off my back, and she didn't know how to punch well. The mental and emotional abuse was relentless and daily. Many men go through abuse but are "programed" to ignore it or shrug it off. I know from experience that it has the same psychological problems. I stayed with her for years, always convinced it would get better. She would do nice things sometimes and I think I lived for those moments. Looking back I don't know why I stayed. Counseling is a very important part of recovery as well as having a good support system of friends. I had a lot to work through and a lot of searching to figure out why I stayed in an abusive relationship, how I could make sure it never happened again, and just what I needed to find for a healthy relationship. We divorced 11 yrs ago and I have been remarried to a wonderful woman for 7 yrs now. I am now a nursing student but have been a medical massage therapist for 6 yrs. I have found that because I have "been through the fire" I have been able to indirectly help DV survivors in recovery. I end up treating physical pains of one type or another through work, and it becomes a healing of a different sort. I am able to show compassionate healing touch through massage, and being a male providing that is very healing to some DV survivor females. I do always make sure proper boundaries are kept as well. Several women have told me after a period that is has been helpful that a man was there just to heal relieve pain in a compassionate way. I believe I will carry this over into my nursing career to some extent as well. Get as much help and support as you can. It does get much better as time goes on.

I've never had trouble with getting my daughter straight back when she is seizing whether it's EMS or if I bring her in the front door. If it's an emergency, you get seen quick. Everyone there knows our names anyway...lol. For months we were in the ED 3-4 times a week with prolonged seizures. Glad she has calmed down a bit with her epilepsy. Puberty sucks.