KeithEMU

This is very discriminatory. How are we as men supposed to be prepared to do our jobs if we are not trained how to do them? I would wonder what the proper way to handle this would be. I think I would find the head of the nursing department at my school and ask them why they think it is acceptable for me to not be trained as fully as the women in the program. I would want to know why they are trained to cath men and I was not trained to cath women. I would want them to assume responsibility (possibly monetary) if a hospital did not hire me because I was not trained properly. Would I phrase it that harshly... not at first, but I would make sure I was getting the education I PAID for. I would make sure I was fully trained to enter this profession. To the women that are mad that men don't do, or attempt to do these procedures, maybe YOU need to go to the schools as well and ask about why you are discriminated against by the schools training the men to pass off, unnecessarily, their jobs to you. Problems change FIRST in education. We want to change the patient's view, but when the school personnel are not educated, or educating, that is the first thing that needs to change.

Or pay for the law suits when word gets out. Recruiters in just about every business are given a range. They try to get people in low, but raise up when they need to to get workers in the specialty they need. How many new grads would get no tuition reimbursement offers, and then they ask for it and they say, "oh yea, we can get you that." Same with sign on bonuses and such.

I think this is the key to the respect thing. Men are more likely to not accept being verbally abused. They speak up. The women that speak up are treated with the same respect, it's just that less speak up. Not just speaking up, but in a respectful way that still says it will not be accepted.

I'm male and know how to braid hair. Most of my friends growing up were female, My ex-wife and kids wanted me to braid their hair, and I learned to do it well. I think the point was he didn't bother to learn. If he had time and the conviction he could have learned to braid hair to make her feel more comfortable. If as a nurse you don't have time to do that then there is another issue. You don't have to, but if you have time, and you can make the patient/resident feel more comfortable, why not. I know time is normally the issue here.

I would believe it is possible for men to move up in many areas to management positions in nursing faster. Don't have stats to support that though. There are numerous treads that show men are normally treated with more respect IN GENERAL by doctors and other nurses. It's not all bad in other words. There are several issues I see here though. Patients who are uncomfortable with being cared for by a male I can deal with fine. They should be comfortable, and we need to respect that. The real issue that should be resolved FIRST is a management and administration view that needs that causes dangerous inequality. This is that when an allegation is made of sexual abuse, MEN get suspended with out pay, or fired, or looked at as a major liability, immediately. This affects their careers sometimes permanently, WHEN THEY DID NOTHING WRONG and the case is unfounded! Female nurses are often treated as the victims if they are reported. Yes an investigation is done, but many of them keep working and being paid. If the charge is unfounded they can go on with normally no ill effects. The hospital will stand behind the woman and crucify the man. This is where the true inequality lies.

VCU is working on starting a DNAP program pretty soon. It will be an optional program of 3 yrs instead of 28 mths for MSN.

It is very scary. If you ever check the sex offender registry and see how many sex offenders live near you, your kids school, ect. it will make you want to stay home with a gun. The XXXXX that raped my daughter gets out in a few months. You can be darn sure I would never accept him as a patient. There is no way I could provide him with proper care. I'd have enough trouble if he was on the same floor.

It doesn't even have to be a year. As soon as you have 1875, you can sit for the test. This normally takes close to a year, but if you work a lot of overtime, it could be far less.

I know this was hard for you to follow through with, but very important. I am very glad things are coming to a close for you. The biggest thing now is to report IMMEDIATELY if he tries to contact you. It can be hard to stay vigilant, but it will keep you safe. You should feel proud for staying strong. Keep up with the counseling.

i think you missed a few points on the tos. let me pull them out for you. no, not just for you, but these parts seem to get violated a lot in this forums. if these are followed this whole area of the boards will be much more pleasant to use. "remember what you agreed to upon signup: you will not use this bb to post free advertising or solicitations, any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise violative of any law. you agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyright is owned by you or by this bb. " "debates we promote the idea of lively debate. this means you are free to disagree with anyone on any type of subject matter as long as your criticism is constructive and polite. " far too many posts have been to argue points that are not even the focus of the topic. it can be very much constrewed as harrassing, hateful, or defamitory, especially when it keeps getting harped on over and over, even when so many are asking you to let it go. to take up an old quote, "why can't we all just get along?"

Fine, Whatever. Does anyone have info on CRNA curriculum and having sections on business of being a CRNA.

I've thought about this as well. I know that VCU recommends getting Organic Chem. Looking at that I need one Gen Chem and one Bio Chem for my BSN. My University offers 2 Organic Chem classes. If I took all of that all I would need is 2 more classes for a minor in chem. Seems like a little work may be beneficial, but not sure if it will actually help me.

I don't see it as shifting goalposts at all. The OP mentioned med school classes, but that was on the side lines. His post was asking about business training in CRNA school. Don't feel you need to justify something you said in a previous post. I don't get the feeling OP cares what they teach in med school. The "goal" was to find out about CRNA curriculum. I am interested in hearing about that as well.

It takes a good person to admit they overreacted. Thank you. Please try to ease into the group. It also has a lot of great people. Many have been put though a lot of disrespect for their chosen specialty though. This forum has tons of information and lots of help. I'd hate for you to be ostracized at the beginning.

I better one would be that sales people and fast food joints have clients and customers... I am caring for a patient. It needs to be obvious that we are in a medical situation, and the word patient makes that clear.