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NP to MD

I have been a CNM/FNP for 7 years and "fell" into the role of and Oncology NP. I am loving it but am quickly seeing the invisible glass ceiling. I originally was going to go to Med School but became enamored with the NP role. Does anyone now of any reciprocity agreement with MD programs? Or anything about this possibility?

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Do a google search for NP to MD it should give you a link

http://www.nptomd.org/

This is a program that is four years and considers your experience as an NP.

Been thinking long and hard on this myself. Graduated a year ago from NP school and just can't let the thought go.

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Do a google search for NP to MD it should give you a link

http://www.nptomd.org/

This is a program that is four years and considers your experience as an NP.

Been thinking long and hard on this myself. Graduated a year ago from NP school and just can't let the thought go.

Check with your state board of medicine if they recogize this school first. There are quite a few of these types of medical schools that are offshore (foreign) and heavily advertise to US citizens. Some have established a fair amount of reputation (St George's, AUC) but this one I believe is on the "avoid" list. Also, good residency programs are very picky when it comes to where their residents attendeded med school. I once worked with a resident when I was in Detroit who attended a Caribbean school where less than half of the graduating class got into a US residency program.

Do a google search for NP to MD it should give you a link

http://www.nptomd.org/

This is a program that is four years and considers your experience as an NP.

Been thinking long and hard on this myself. Graduated a year ago from NP school and just can't let the thought go.

I would highly recommend not going to this school. Foreign schools have a lot of problems compared to their US counterparts. There are those that are highly regarded (the UK, german and most australian schools), those that are accepted but with hurdles the graduates have to endure (SGU, Ross), and those where it is difficult for graduates to get residencies. This is the latter.

Foreign, Non-european schools tend to have major problems compared to the US:

1) Attrition- they tend to have a high drop-out/fail-out rate

2) Their USMLE pass rate is miserable

3) Their rotations are very subpar

4) Their ability to get residencies is very limited

From this school, it would be near impossible to get pretty much anything other than a family medicine residency, and even then, you would probably have difficulty getting an FM program to accept you. Do not underestimate the difficulty to get a residency in the US. No residency and all that money you spent means nothing.

What do you all feel about a Nurse Practitioner to Medical Doctor bridge program?

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I have a feeling that in years to come, which may be 10, 30 , or 50 years to come, they will have aNP to MD program

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I personally don't feel anything. There aren't currently any NP to MD "bridge" programs and there aren't likely to ever be any.

Highly unlikely and highly undesirable. It is counterproductive to the stated goals of NPs, for one thing. There is no support for that politically in the NP organizations I am involved in (ACNP and AANP) and I can only imagine the outright hostility that any such proposal would be met with by the AMA, lol. No, I think we can safely say hell will freeze over long before this would be considered, and when it is considered, it will be immediately shot down.

Answered this in the other thread, but no, I don't think they ever will. The NP organizations are firmly opposed, NPs are not likely to be interested in submitting to the AMA, and the AMA is not likely to ever approve such a thing. It's a nonstarter.

It would probably be similar to the PA to MD bridge- a 3 year program followed by residency.

As a nurse (RN) that decided I did want to learn more, understand the entire disease process, I went to medical school and I am now a 3rd year resident with 18 more months of nonsense left. I am also older, have children, and work 2 jobs just to make things work.

It is utter hell, I have "started over" late in life, feel like I have to work harder than the 20 or 30 something guy or gal sitting next to me (probably self-created delusion and I am the only person being this critical on my performance). I have missed a lot of my kid's activities but I have also attend many (just out of fear I would not be there for them) so probably no more than if I was a nurse working 3-4 12 a week to pay the bills. I am tired and look forward to completing residency.

I have learned a lot and am completely happy with my decision to go to medical school so late in life because I feel like it did answer the questions I was looking to answer. I really do like my job and have a great deal of personal satisfaction with just going to work and look forward to it. I did realize though that there is far too much to learn and as an EM doctor, I only know EM, and all of the other sub-specialties are foreign to me and well out of my scope of practice. I put in chest tubes, central lines, arterial lines and intubate patient but in no way am I a surgeon. I had such a distorted view prior to medical school, this idea I would "understand" medicine and now 7 1/2 years later realize I know very little and there is just too much to know and learn to possibly "know it all"

If you feel like medicine and think medicine is for you then go to medical school right now! Do not hesitate, get off the couch and drop all excuses. It will suck and your life will be miserable but in the end you will be glad you did it. I am glad I did it and find work fun (not to say some days don't suck when 40 patients check in to the ER all at once) but in the big picture I am completely happy with my choice. I had to compete prerequisites which delayed my starting medical school and the constant testing during school and residency (boards, and in-service exams) make training more laborious but all doable and I will soon be able to leave that all behind.

The way I look at it I am going to be x years old whether I go to medical school or not (unless a plane falls out of the sky and hits me) so I should enjoy what I do. This is what I repeated day after day as I cursed my decision on some days. Ooverall, if you are considering medical school and as some have posted have not found being an NP the vehicle to create job satisfaction then you should go to medical school and I think in the end you will be happy with your decision.

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