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any instructors or such out there

hello.....just wondering if any instructors or past instructors come here?

if so....or anyone can jump in and tell me what they think on this one.....

ok...I am in a 10mo LPN program...I am 45 and the range in class is 20 to 40's........in my clinical group there are 8 of us......3 or 4 out of the 8 i can see being good nurses.....the others.....no so....even though one is very book smart,she is the 20 yr ol by the way......she is not the caring compasionate person that a nurse should be....she looks down on PTs,makes fun of them in our conference room and mostly just sits in there doing nothin......she and the others look up VS on the computer for their nurses note...even though we are to take our own.....they do half poop care on the PTs.....AND one is nothing but a drunk....she comes in smelling of the nights before beer binge.....she is 26 and has a 3 yr ol daughter....now i know what people do in there private time is no concern....this person also comes to class straight from the bars in the morning....you can smell the alcohol in the classroom.....the instructors know this....this person is down to NO hours left to miss.....we get 40hrs in sept......she now has none....even if she is 5 mins late....either for class or clinic....BUT...our clinic instructor does not deduct the time...she has taken this girl under her wing to get her thru school...she is very smart....and i think if she got her life together she would be a good nurse...but she has tried several times this year to quit drinking.....she talks about it all the time....she counts down the hours till she can leave shcool to go get drunk.....one of our instructors gave her a ride home one morning drunk fro school.....she had forgotten we didnt have school one day and showed up.....

NOW..my question....should a instructorin good moral standing and good conscious let this person out in the world of nursing?(by instructor,i mean the head)

also....our clinical instructor is a teaching aide for our class.....we have 2 instructors...one in the morning and one in the afternoon.....the aide does like the med testing on us and such....no teaching.....she is our clinical instrutor...she is 33.....and acts like she is 19.....she flirts with the PTs family young sons....or guy who might be in the hall or in the dinning room....she constantly talks about her sex life and what she does....with the younger gals in our clinic....i am NOT learning anything from her and I hate clinic...as well as a couple of the other older gals who are there to become the best nurses we can be.....so we take it upon ourselves to search out nurses on our floor to help us......i had a nurse come up to me one day and ask it our instructor was a bit on the wacky side....not good...also.....when our head instructor of the program comes in to observe she a different person.....in charge,bossy,telling us what to do,what lab values to look for....just a show....i feel like standing up and saying this is NOT how it is.....but i have to pass clinical.....so i dont........

cause i think she is the type of person if she doesnt like you,she will fail you.....

ok...thats my gripe for the day....

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There is nothing scientific about nursing! Except calculations and working in a lab. WHich most nurses dont'. Yes you have to know some calculations and pathophysiology, but it doesn't take a genius to be a nurse.

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Ahhhh... now we start to see why this student has had some problems in nursing school.

I have not had any problems in Nursing school, or pharmacology or any class or clinical, just with one instrutor. I have passed all classes with A's and B's and know my microbiology, anatomy and phsio. Also have an AA in Social and behavioral sciences, dont need to prove myself here.

You might want to explain yourself instead of just making quotes.

I have been an instructor. Focus on doing your best and forget everyone else. They aren't going to help you pass

I am sure that's not why. Most instructors are great. And I had a fantastic experience. But getting dropped on the last day? Unheard of.

So sorry you had such a bad experience, but to be dropped on the last day is not unheard of, in fact, it happened to numerous students in my class. I am not an instructor, nor claim to know how it all works, but I do know instructors do communicate with one another on various levels & topics &, of course, students do become a topic of discussion. I cannot speak for the instructors, but I would think that being that you were dropped the last day, they may have been making an attempt to give you another chance to prove yourself. I do not mean this as an attack, I'm only posting to let you know that you are not alone in what has happened to you. I hope you continue to work towards your goal & that you succeed. You are not the first nor last NS to have been dropped, please if it is your dream, continue on & prove your instructor wrong... as you seem to feel a grave error was made.

Wishing you the best of luck!

I am not an instructor, nor claim to know how it all works, but I do know instructors do communicate with one another on various levels & topics &, of course, students do become a topic of discussion. I cannot speak for the instructors, but I would think that being that you were dropped the last day, they may have been making an attempt to give you another chance to prove yourself.

You hit the nail right on the head.

There is only two reasons for this--alcoholic or parkinsons. The later is not it. It doesn't take a genius to figure this one out either. My brother was an alcolholic and his hands shook also.

I assume you're talking about the two reasons for hands shaking. My hands shake at times. I'm not an alcoholic nor do I have Parkinsons.

How far along are you in nursing school to come up with only two reasons for this?

Look up in your neuro text something called familial tremor

:icon_roll

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I have not had any problems in Nursing school, or pharmacology or any class or clinical, just with one instrutor. I have passed all classes with A's and B's and know my microbiology, anatomy and phsio. Also have an AA in Social and behavioral sciences, dont need to prove myself here.

You might want to explain yourself instead of just making quotes.

In post #12, you ranted and raved about everyone in nursing school. You did not say that you had 1 teacher with whom you had a problem. You used the word "they" and similar words often.

I also know from my extensive experience that when a person is failed out of a program, it is usually NOT a one-person decision. Faculty members and schools are smart enough to protect themselves from law suits by not making such decisions in isolation. Multiple people get involved. Also, anyone with any intelligence would not accept dismissal without at least making inquiries about an appeal. So, I assume you have at least gone through some attempt to be reinstated, or appeal the grade, or whatever ... and that would have involved more than the single instructor who gave you the failing grade.

Based on all of that information ... plus your obvious disrespect for the field of nursing in general expressed in the later post (written at 2:11) ... I can see that your ideas about nursing would have clashed seriously with the values and culture of the discipline as a whole. That clash in values and culture would explained some of your problem.

So sorry you had such a bad experience, but to be dropped on the last day is not unheard of, in fact, it happened to numerous students in my class. I am not an instructor, nor claim to know how it all works, but I do know instructors do communicate with one another on various levels & topics &, of course, students do become a topic of discussion. I cannot speak for the instructors, but I would think that being that you were dropped the last day, they may have been making an attempt to give you another chance to prove yourself. I do not mean this as an attack, I'm only posting to let you know that you are not alone in what has happened to you. I hope you continue to work towards your goal & that you succeed. You are not the first nor last NS to have been dropped, please if it is your dream, continue on & prove your instructor wrong... as you seem to feel a grave error was made.

Wishing you the best of luck!

Thanks so much, I wont worry, im pushing on.

In post #12, you ranted and raved about everyone in nursing school. You did not say that you had 1 teacher with whom you had a problem. You used the word "they" and similar words often.

I also know from my extensive experience that when a person is failed out of a program, it is usually NOT a one-person decision. Faculty members and schools are smart enough to protect themselves from law suits by not making such decisions in isolation. Multiple people get involved. Also, anyone with any intelligence would not accept dismissal without at least making inquiries about an appeal. So, I assume you have at least gone through some attempt to be reinstated, or appeal the grade, or whatever ... and that would have involved more than the single instructor who gave you the failing grade.

Based on all of that information ... plus your obvious disrespect for the field of nursing in general expressed in the later post (written at 2:11) ... I can see that your ideas about nursing would have clashed seriously with the values and culture of the discipline as a whole. That clash in values and culture would explained some of your problem.

QUite the contrary- I highly respect the nursing field and yes I've done all to get back in. Sorry If I offended anyone here, that was not my purpose. My discipline as a whole in nursing is caring for my patients. Doing what is right for them. Not sit here and argue about ethics and nursing, nursing is not a culture by the way. It is a practice like medicine. (But to some it's a culture for those who like to live in clicks and inuendoes, but thats not for me.) Sorry, my patients are more important than that.

I assume you're talking about the two reasons for hands shaking. My hands shake at times. I'm not an alcoholic nor do I have Parkinsons.

How far along are you in nursing school to come up with only two reasons for this?

Look up in your neuro text something called familial tremor

:icon_roll

OK, sorry didn't mean to offend anyone here, I'm still a student you know, Not a nurse yet, thanks for all the responses.

Not the least bit offended but I just wanted to point out to you in your post that you were adamant about being only 2 reasons for shaking hands and it not taking a genius to figure it out.

So perhaps you learned something new today.

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There is nothing scientific about nursing! Except calculations and working in a lab. WHich most nurses dont'. Yes you have to know some calculations and pathophysiology, but it doesn't take a genius to be a nurse.

Excuse me? "Some" calculations and pathophysiology huh? What lab do you think professional licensed nurses work in? I've never heard of or seen one. What a cake job that would be! I worked medical units where we had old alcoholics with cirrhosis who were puking up blood because of their GI bleeding, COPDers coughing and hacking up every color of sputum you can dream up, stroke patients who couldn't move a muscle, or dementia patients screaming for their mothers who had died long ago while diarrhea poured out of them. All had multiple problems. I was thinking critically throughout my work day and making decisions affecting the care and outcome of these patients, and that's very scientific. That's what a professional RN does. We're not emotional airheads that are paid or have enough time to do nothing but hold patient hands and fluff pillows! That only happens on TV dramas. If you finish RN school you have a very rude awakening coming.

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