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advice needed

I am a relatively new RN at a major city hospital. I have been off an 8 week orientation for about a month now and I am encountering some problems. I am hoping some of the more experienced nurses can give me a little guidence.

My problem is not with my job. I love my job. It's with some of my coworkers.

I work on an extremely busy medical unit. Of course the nursing shortage has an impact on us and our assignments are ridiculous at times. I have had as many as 11 patients. Our normal ratio is 8 to 1. This is with an assistant. Without the assitant it is 5 to 1.

At times this is unreasonable as well as unsafe.

The pressure and stress is enormous.

Still, I enjoy the pace for the most part. I am working very hard to improve my performance and learn my job. There is little to no support from management. I've been thrown to the wolves so to speak.

As if this isnt hard enough I work with some exceptionally mean and vindictive people. Most of the assistants do nothing besides vital signs. I have been yelled at by some of them for asking them to do their job (change a sheet, see that a room is ready for a transfer). I've been told that the requests I make, taking a patient to Xray, are not their jobs but mine. I have to look for them when I need something done and 9 out of 10 times they are not on the floor or are socializing on another unit.

When I do get them to do their job I always have to go back and check what they did. I don't have the luxury of saying the assitant didnt do it or the assistant didnt tell me because as you all know, whatever they do and whatever happens, its my fault.

Management is more than aware of this. I have reported it as well as other RN's. Nothing is ever done.

As if this were not bad enough I am having a major problem with the clique tof RN's that think they run the floor. I do not socialize with these people. They are gossip mongers who are malicious. I've seen them do things to their coworkers. And now its my turn.

I have done nothing to this small group of people other than refuse to get involved in their crap. I have had the worst experiences with them. I ask a question and I am told that they are not going to answer because they are busy charting. I ask for a witness to a waste and am told no. I get the worst assignments on the unit. Not only the worst patients but they split my assignment up into two units on opposite sides so that I have to walk all night. I have had as many as 5 patients without an assistant, on daylight, with 4 of them being completes. All had fluids going and there was one with a feeding tube who took massive medications that all had to be crushed and pushed thru the tube. I complained. Oops...how did that happen. I got help at the end of my shift in the form of an assitant who was on light duty and too sick to be much help.

One nurse in particular has been on me for weeks. I have finally had enough. I feel like if I don't handle this my way they will never stop. She is extremely rude and sarcastic to me. She will not offer any help unless she has to and then she makes a huge deal of it. It doesn't matter where her assignment is. She is all over the unit and has her nose in everyone's business. I had the misfortune to work with her last week night shift. She assigned me 8 patients on two different zones with the rooms all over the place. On top of that she gave me an admission. My patient load was difficult to say the least. She was well aware of this.

At 6 am I recieved a call from a distraught family memeber who was flying in to see her mom from Florida. She was furious about the care her mom was recieving from the doctors. Her sister stayed overnight and I took her to a conference room and tried to explain her mothers condition. I was there about 30 minutes. The family member was calm and I felt good about what I had done because nobody had ever really explained the infection their mom had with them.

This nurse saw me in the conference room twice. After that I went to the other part of my unit to work on some labs and a PICC line that was sluggish. After fixing that and administering pain meds IV I gave report to the nurses on that part of the unit.

I was headed to the other part of the unit when the phone rang.

This other nurse was on the line screaming at me:

"where were you?"

"in report"

"for an hour? no you werent"

"yes i was"

"no you werent"

"what business is it of yours?"

"when your patient is screaming at me for pain meds for an hour it is my business"

"are you talking about mr_? he was medicated. he is drug seeking and you know that" (mr _is a junkie.he knows his med schedule better than we do. he can be abusive when he doesnt get his fix but we have been dealing with him for a month so we all know whats up. he had his morphine but he wanted his percs cos his buzz wasnt enuff. i told him id be in at 7 to give him the percs...it was a lil after 7 and he was freaking out)

"look, I'm telling you I was in report"

"no you weren't"

at this point I realized there were a number of ways I could go. I didn't have the time or the patience to argue with her. It didn't matter what I said.

very calmly I said.."I was playing with myself" and I hung up.

I headed for the medroom and she came up the hall, smoke pouring out of her ears and nose.

We had an encounter in front of an audience (that was what she wanted all along) and I very calmly and quietly told her that if she had a problem with me or my performance she should discuss it with the manager. She put her face right up to mine and said "I will, oh I will"

then she got a contorted satisfied smile on her face.

I told her, "In the meantime, get out of my face"

I got called into the office the other day and had been written up for this incident and more.

She rounded up some of her friends to report me for things that are petty. Some of them were true. I have left things undone. There were some mistakes. Yes I say the "f" word on occassion. So do they. I only say it in the confernece room, never on the floor...like they do. Some things said were untrue. They said I had a patient with a BP of 60/49 and I ignored that and they had to hang fluids on their shift. That never happened. They said they came on duty and I had 4 IV bags empty. Again, that never happened. So many things were said I couldnt keep track of all the accusations. Some of these things that were left undone were reported by me to the next nurse. One was an injection of insulin that needed to be given. The doc was in writing orders as I was leaving and she told me to let it go until the next shift. I reported this to the oncoming nurse and she was ok with it. There were more orders written after I left that I was unaware of. None of them were stat. This nurse reported me for ignoring stat orders.

I got reported for not doing a timely admission when I had spent the entire day paging docs and trying to get this patient admitted. This whole scene was reported to the nursing supervisor as it was happening but still I was reported for it as well.

I realize I have to go back and document these things and from now on C Y A is my motto but I just don't know how to handle this. I could go to management and report them for all the things they do but frankly, I don't have the time and it's not my style.

I am not the only new nurse having these problems. Others have reported the same thing, the same people. Management is well aware. In fact we have nurses in the registry that refuse to work on the unit for just these reasons.

Everything stays status quo.

I just don't know how to handle this since I am not established and managment seems to be believing what they say. any suggestions?

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What a great attitude you have about all of this, Frustrated! I can't say that I would be so nice about it. I'm glad to hear you are checking out your options, too. Let us know how it goes...

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Be verrrrrry careful.

I am not at all sure that flesh-eating ghouls CAN be killed with kindness.

The switch-witch may be just setting you up for the kill....good cop/bad cop?

Please consider calling kaycee's nurse recruiter.

The good unit you like is still under the control of the inefficient manager-right?

Good luck.

P

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i love nursing and this hospital has a very good reputation. it will look good on my resume.

the unit i have been transferred to is excellent. i had a heavy patient load and was still able to get out of there on time.

i spoke with a nurse who has been on this unit for 10 years. she told me that when she is downstaffed to the unit im supposed to be on she can count on staying at least four hours after her shift ends.

i also spoke to an orientee who told me she had to spend one day with the main nurse who is causing me all the problems and she said she left the unit in tears.

i am writing a letter to the DON as well as the CEO with a copy going to our acting manager (our mgr is on maternity leave)

if they continue to refuse my request to transfer i will leave the hospital. i will make that clear from the begining.

i will not put up with abuse by my coworkers.

Way to go, Frustrated!!! Just remember that even though working at this hospital will "look good" on your resume'; it won't matter a tinkers d@*m if your license is in jeopardy. Continue to CYA and document, document, document! (I had had replied to your post earlier, but now I see it never got posted- my advice was the same as Charles Smiths and several others'; that this is a toxic unit; get out of there and leave them short-handed, since that seems to be what they want. And be sure that HR knows why you left; and hire an attorney to file charges after you leave).

Frustrated how old are you??? I am 22 yo male who has one week left on my six week orientation...I do not think that I could handle the situation like you did...I have had to deal with only one problem and this was with a preceptor from hell who I had for two days (2 twelves) ...I felt STUPID she was nagging at me and *****in about every thing I was forgetting...she watched me drown at work all the time telling me I will have to catch on soon!! Anyways I talked to my supervisor and changed preceptors...however for those 2 days I wanted nothing more then to walk the hell out of my job....I know it is hard being new as you want the security of a new job...as being new does suck...but you cant let co workers make you hate your job!...then again mayby it is because Im a guy ...and female clicks dont feel threatened by me :) good luck at work ...you are doing the right thing!! Moe

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i am 44 years old.

i have always been able to handle things like this on my own. i would never had brought management into it.

but they are in it now and its either sink or swim.

from all ive heard about this hospital from the other staff...this is the ONLY unit like that.

they hate registry nurses...give them the worst assignments (unless im there) and they hate nurses from other units.

this is so shortsighted on their part. i could care less where that nurse comes from just so she does her job. most of the registry nurses are better than the RN's on our floor and they all pitch in.

they look down on the assistants and the secretaries. without them we couldnt do an effective job.(well sometimes the assitants are a hinderance rather than help)

i dont understand why this is the way it is on our unit. why WOULDNT you want to work as a team? it makes it all easier on everyone and better for the patients.

when i talk to the acting manager about all this she denies any of it is going on when she KNOWS that it is.

and it really pisses me off that im the sacrificial lamb.

their lack of support is just amazing.

i cant believe they are refusing to let me stay on the better part of the unit. they are hiring nurses for there too. the ppl there WANT me to stay.

im trying to think of what i want to include in this letter. i dont want to come off as threatening or giving them ultimatums.

i dont think they care about losing one nurse....nurses in that hospital are leaving in droves. i think their attitude is that they can hire new nurses...and yet...this is how they treat the new ones.

they KNOW..they ALL know.

thats their problem tho...im looking out for me. im a good nurse. i told them that. i give a high quality of care to my patients. i care about them. i take pride in my work and i want to take pride in WHERE i work. this is not possible on that unit.

Give em hell, girl!

We are all behind you!

Do what you have to do. Even if it means going to the CEO with your notebooks and tapes, and begging on hands and knees to stay on the unit you got transferred to.....

But, DON"T let them get you on the nasty unit.

Give em all the heartburn you can.:eek:

You are worth so much more than that.

If all else fails, you have other options.

Prayers are all over you, from what it looks like to me.

Hang in there.

Marla

contact an attorney for advice. report that nasty nurse to the board for anything. maybe when her license is in jepoardy she will start behaving like a civil human being. be sure she is not as perfect as she thinks. being vindictive can be fun. LOL. look in the policy and procedure manual and see where you can say bad words then call her a fu----- bi--- to her face in that area. what is she going to do, write you up for calling her a name in the parking lot? in the meantime, call in sick until you find a better unit. you deserve better. :cool:

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