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The election 2024 Thread

I traditionally have a thread heading to the election, here we go.

Get out the popcorn for this one.

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is expected to formally announce next week he is running for president in 2024, NBC News reported Thursday, citing two sources familiar with the matter.

The governor's official entry into the Republican primary field will put him head-to-head with former President Donald Trump, the party's current frontrunner for the nomination. Trump has already spent months treating DeSantis as his primary campaign rival, thrashing him with torrents of criticism over his gubernatorial record, his political skills and his personality.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/18/desantis-plans-to-officially-announce-presidential-run-next-week.html

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NRSKarenRN said:

Christie  going after DeSantis re his January 6th statement...

 

and Trump on diverting $ away from 2024 campaign to Save America PAC used for legal fees ( 90% to campaign, 10% to PAC).

Christie rising in some Republican presidential polls to 5-9%.

I will give him credit for having a sense of humor unlike the other automatons that are running for the Republicans.  He's the only one showing any significant brain activity.

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New polling shows recurrent challenges for Ron DeSantis with female registered voters.

A Civiqs survey reveals that 63% of women disapprove of the Florida Governor, a potentially bad sign for his presidential run. Just 27% approve of him.

https://floridapolitics.com/archives/620830-ron-63-women/

toomuchbaloney said:

That's the cult.  It's interesting how popular Trump is with conservative women.  

It appears that some conservative women are going full MAGA nasty.  But I think they will turn off the non-MAGA Republicans.  We don't need a lot of defectors to win in 2024. People are unhappy with inflation but compared to other 1st world countries we are doing better.  I don't think that they can use the economy against Biden.  But, of course, I am over estimating the IQ of half of the country.  Meanwhile  I see that Tennessee A.G. is asking for the medical records of transgender patients.  Now this is truly Nazism and scary.   Stay tuned.....

 

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subee said:

 Meanwhile  I see that Tennessee A.G. is asking for the medical records of transgender patients.  Now this is truly Nazism and scary.   Stay tuned.....

 

WORSE, Vanderbilt Medical Center  ALREADY released hospital records to TN AG Jonathan Skrmetti's office,

NBC News 6/20/23

Hospital turns over transgender patient records to Tennessee attorney general in investigation

The attorney general's office has been investigating potential medical billing fraud by Vanderbilt University Medical Center and related providers since September

 

...“The Tennessee Attorney General has legal authority in an investigation to require that VUMC provide complete copies of patient medical records that are relevant to its investigation. VUMC was obligated to comply and did so,” Howser said in a statement.

Brandon Smith, the attorney general's chief of staff, told The Tennessean that the office "maintains patient records in the strictest confidence, as required by law" and that the investigation is focused "solely on VUMC and certain related providers, not patients.” He said the office has been investigating potential medical billing fraud by the hospital and related providers since September 2022. The hospital began providing patient records to the office in December 2022, Smith said.

The attorney general can request patient health records under federal and state law if the office is investigating a possible issue at the hospital, Paul Hales, a St. Louis-based attorney who specializes in health information privacy, told the newspaper.

Chris Sanders, executive director of the LGBTQ advocacy group Tennessee Equality Project, told The Tennessean three different parents of transgender children contacted him Monday after Vanderbilt informed them about the release of the records to the attorney general....

 

These are perilous times.  It's discouraging that so many American conservatives are so engaged with this fascist movement. 

NRSKarenRN said:

WORSE, Vanderbilt Medical Center  ALREADY released hospital records to TN AG Jonathan Skrmetti's office,

NBC News 6/20/23

Hospital turns over transgender patient records to Tennessee attorney general in investigation

The attorney general's office has been investigating potential medical billing fraud by Vanderbilt University Medical Center and related providers since September

 

...“The Tennessee Attorney General has legal authority in an investigation to require that VUMC provide complete copies of patient medical records that are relevant to its investigation. VUMC was obligated to comply and did so,” Howser said in a statement.

Brandon Smith, the attorney general's chief of staff, told The Tennessean that the office "maintains patient records in the strictest confidence, as required by law" and that the investigation is focused "solely on VUMC and certain related providers, not patients.” He said the office has been investigating potential medical billing fraud by the hospital and related providers since September 2022. The hospital began providing patient records to the office in December 2022, Smith said.

The attorney general can request patient health records under federal and state law if the office is investigating a possible issue at the hospital, Paul Hales, a St. Louis-based attorney who specializes in health information privacy, told the newspaper.

Chris Sanders, executive director of the LGBTQ advocacy group Tennessee Equality Project, told The Tennessean three different parents of transgender children contacted him Monday after Vanderbilt informed them about the release of the records to the attorney general....

 

I just caught up with this story this morning and find it to be a gut-puncher.  Skrimetti is nothing mother than a mouthy brown-shirt saluting The Fuhrer Trump.  This is just another manifestation of children-hating MAGA's.  

subee said:

I will give him credit for having a sense of humor unlike the other automatons that are running for the Republicans.  He's the only one showing any significant brain activity.

Geez.  Now I am going to have to take back the words I said before.  I saw Christie being interviewed this morning expressing his Catholic bono fides by avoiding the tough questions  and repeating twice that he was opposed to abortions at nine months.  Why hasn't his "team" or anyone else explained to him how silly that is to even say?  No MAGA has explained to me how they do these abortions happen  at nine months and they get away with passing on this drivel.  The Democrats are passing on an important teaching moment here.  

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 The Democrats are passing on an important teaching moment here.  

You can't teach common sense.  

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Wonder if presidential candidate Robert Kennedy Jr ever took a biology class or was awake if class taken as human sex is determined at the moment of conception joining male sperm to female egg, and therefore not altered by endocrine-disrupting chemical exposure to children later in life.   Anyone aware of revised reproductive science?

 

Troubling days for his campaign.

CNN 7/13/23

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. repeatedly suggested that chemicals in water are impacting sexuality of children

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...Endocrine disruptors are chemicals that interfere with the body's hormones and endocrine system, according to the Environmental Protection Agency. Such chemicals are commonly found in pesticides and plastic, and can affect reproductive functions and increase the risk of obesity. Kennedy on multiple occasions misconstrued endocrine disruptors' studied ability to cause some male frogs to become female and produce viable eggs, suggesting that these chemicals could have similar effects on children and change their sexuality.

CNN spoke to multiple experts who said there is no link between endocrine disruptors and children's gender and sexuality. While sex in in frogs is determined by environmental factors such as temperature and chemicals, Dr. Andrea Gore, professor of pharmacology and toxicology at University of Texas at Austin, said the sex of humans is determined at the moment of conception, and cannot later be altered by endocrine-disrupting chemicals

 

Robert F. Kennedy Jr.: "I Was The First Person Censored By The Biden Administration," WH Gave An Order To Twitter & facebook

It's Kennedy's vaccine claims that aroused concern of government scientists questioning his claims + promotion of vaccine disinformation on internet

The most dangerous claims Robert F. Kennedy Jr. makes about vaccines — and why he's dead wrong

Watched 3/4 his April campaign kickoff. Longer he spoke, more I had concerns of health issues along with differences in views.... count my consideration out.

Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. press dinner devolves into 'screaming and polemic farting': NY Post

 

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