question about transfer credits

elkpark · Feb 17, 2008

Well, I don't know what the chances are that you might get "caught," but most all applications for nursing school specify that you submit transcripts from all prior schools you've attended -- and, as with employers, if they found out at some point that you had omitted one or more schools from your application, they would consider that falsification of your application and, probably (at most schools), grounds for immediately being kicked out of the program (esp. if, as you say, you exceed the minimum required GPA without the "extra" classes but might not qualify if they were included ...)

Nursing is a field that requires a v. high level of personal integrity and honesty -- people's lives depend on us being honest and trustworthy. IMHO, dishonesty is a pretty poor way to start out in nursing -- just a thought ...

Best wishes --

llg, PhD, RN · Feb 17, 2008

Make an appointment with someone from the school you are considering. Explain your situation in general terms (without giving too many details unless asked) and ask them what their policy is. You probably don't NEED to TRANSFER all those credits, but that is a different issue from acknowledging they exist and/or submitting them for consideration as part of your application. It may be that they will require them as part of your application, but that you won't need to actually transfer them since they won't count towards your graduation.

Give the school a chance to be reasonable about it before you assume the worst and start your nursing career off with a lie.

pnkrocdevil · Feb 17, 2008

I was in the same situation as you and only had my "good" transcript evaluated. Most schools say they want ALL transcripts, but you get to choose which credits you want to have evaluated. I don't think you're doing anything wrong by just submitting the trascript with the courses you need for your degree.

Asherah, BSN, RN · Feb 17, 2008

I was in the same situation as you and only had my "good" transcript evaluated. Most schools say they want ALL transcripts, but you get to choose which credits you want to have evaluated. I don't think you're doing anything wrong by just submitting the trascript with the courses you need for your degree.

This is horrible advice.

Again, please meet with a counselor for the school you intend to enroll in before you follow the advice above. Every school I've ever applied to has required submission of any previous college coursework and omitting any coursework can be grounds for falsification and removal from the program if you were accepted and began at that school.

I have been in your shoes and was accepted to a program even with a few quarters of less than stellar grades. Its not worth lying to the school and then worrying if they will find out.

Good luck!

picurn10 · Feb 17, 2008

I just wanted to clarify that my questions was not "can I get away with leaving out transcripts?" my question was just "do I have to include each and every transcript from over the past 10yrs?"

The wording of the website sounds like you can transfer up to 90 credits so I didn't know if that was a "if you want to transfer up to 90 credits you can" or "you must transfer all your credits up unto 90hrs" For the record I have close to double that amount of credits, so I was just trying to figure out what would count and what wouldn't, not trying to scam the system.

Asherah, BSN, RN · Feb 17, 2008

I just wanted to clarify that my questions was not "can I get away with leaving out transcripts?" my question was just "do I have to include each and every transcript from over the past 10yrs?"
The wording of the website sounds like you can transfer up to 90 credits so I didn't know if that was a "if you want to transfer up to 90 credits you can" or "you must transfer all your credits up unto 90hrs" For the record I have close to double that amount of credits, so I was just trying to figure out what would count and what wouldn't, not trying to scam the system.

The school itself will determine what transfers and what does not by performing course equivalency determinations, the important point being, you must allow them access to all transcripts to determine this.

I understand you are merely trying to determine the correct way to go about this, but I am trying to emphasize the fact that you will indeed need to give them everything. My first college courses were taken in 1997 and yes, I did need to provide them when I applied to programs last fall.

elkpark · Feb 18, 2008

I was in the same situation as you and only had my "good" transcript evaluated. Most schools say they want ALL transcripts, but you get to choose which credits you want to have evaluated. I don't think you're doing anything wrong by just submitting the trascript with the courses you need for your degree.

You are doing something wrong -- you are falsifying your application -- if the application states that you must submit transcripts from all colleges/universities you've attended and you omit one or more schools that you've attended.

Transferring credits and submitting transcripts for review are two entirely different things -- if the application asks for transcripts from all your prior schools, they want you to submit all your transcripts regardless of whether the credits are going to transferred or not.

BChach · Feb 18, 2008

Schools tend to know if you have not submitted a transcript. In fact, when I applied to nursing school, the admissions office told ME which transcripts they were waiting for even before I had a chance to tell them they were en route! I don't know how they knew what schools I attended (I have been to many...one semester here, one semester there, etc). There obviously is some database they connect to.

You are doing something wrong -- you are falsifying your application -- if the application states that you must submit transcripts from all colleges/universities you've attended and you omit one or more schools that you've attended.
Transferring credits and submitting transcripts for review are two entirely different things -- if the application asks for transcripts from all your prior schools, they want you to submit all your transcripts regardless of whether the credits are going to transferred or not.

pnkrocdevil · Feb 18, 2008

You are doing something wrong -- you are falsifying your application -- if the application states that you must submit transcripts from all colleges/universities you've attended and you omit one or more schools that you've attended.
Transferring credits and submitting transcripts for review are two entirely different things -- if the application asks for transcripts from all your prior schools, they want you to submit all your transcripts regardless of whether the credits are going to transferred or not.

I did not do anything wrong. All my CC requires for admission are your HIGH SCHOOL transcripts. When you submit any other transcripts it's for evaluation, it has nothing to do with the application process. For admission into the nursing program they only look at grades from pre-req courses, not overall GPA, so there is no need to submit a transcript that they don't require.

pnkrocdevil · Feb 18, 2008

I did not do anything wrong. All my CC requires for admission are your HIGH SCHOOL transcripts. When you submit any other transcripts it's for evaluation, it has nothing to do with the application process. For admission into the nursing program they only look at grades from pre-req courses, not overall GPA, so there is no need to submit a transcript that they don't require.

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1. Feel free to visit your local campus and meet with an admissions counselor to learn what Ivy Tech can do for you.

2. Complete an application online or print the application and submit to the Admissions Office. You will also need to provide the Admissions Office with an official copy of your high school transcript and GED scores*.

3. Complete a skills assessment so you can decide which courses you'll need to succeed at Ivy Tech. Your ACT or SAT scores also may serve this purpose or college coursework less than 10 years old from a regionally accredited institution may be used. For more information or to schedule an assessment, please contact the Office of Admissions at the Ivy Tech campus nearest you.

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Asherah, BSN, RN · Feb 18, 2008

Steps to complete when applying at Ivy Tech:
1. Feel free to visit your local campus and meet with an admissions counselor to learn what Ivy Tech can do for you.
2. Complete an application online or print the application and submit to the Admissions Office. You will also need to provide the Admissions Office with an official copy of your high school transcript and GED scores*.
3. Complete a skills assessment so you can decide which courses you'll need to succeed at Ivy Tech. Your ACT or SAT scores also may serve this purpose or college coursework less than 10 years old from a regionally accredited institution may be used. For more information or to schedule an assessment, please contact the Office of Admissions at the Ivy Tech campus nearest you.
4. Make financial aid arrangements.
5. Register for classes.

Again, you may want to research the school's academic policies a bit further, for your own sake (see below). As any other college I've even known, they will indeed want your previous transcripts, just as they ask for your previous college attendance on your application, as they do, I took a look. I'm proving this point for others who may come along and see this thread...I repeat: It is not a good idea to unknowingly or intentionally omit information from potential programs. It will come back to haunt you and as you've tried quite hard thus far, it is not worth it. For all potential applicants, do the work to learn the policies of your school regarding previous coursework.

Transcripts

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