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  1. After I took my Nclex on a Friday, I logged into Pearson vue on Wednesday and paid the extra 8 dollars for my unofficial results, said I'd passed. And Nevada is one of the states that participates in the expedited results. From then to licensing from the state of Nevada, it was about a week until it said my license was posted and active. One of my cohort, moved after taking the Nclex to California and it took hers about 2 months to get her license. They told her it would be 8-12 weeks. So there was a huge difference in the wait time between Nv, and Ca. As there is in all states. I heard it takes awhile in Cali. I'm sorry, I know the wait is killin ya, but just hang in there.
  2. Sorry my child grab my phone and hit post before I could finish.My question was, what is the prudent amount of time, experience, etc.. before pursuing an FNP? I've passed my Nclex, am a licensed RN, have the clinic exp, and volunteer at a free clinic. I'm drawn to the medical side rather than the nursing side.
  3. Everyone has always told me to go to medical school. I applied, got accepted, then put the brakes on. I realized that this is not a time in my life to be taking on a 200k debt, and give up the next 8-12 years before I start a career. So I decided on nursing school. Did an accelerated bsn,
  4. I don't have a problem with it, I do believe that it is safer than alcohol and also ciggs. Even if it was 100% legal in my state, It's still 100% illegal federally. I tried it in college....not for me, but then again, nor is alcohol or ciggs. I do have a feeling that within the next 10 years or so, it will become legal in all 50 states if not close. I would view it as the same as alcohol use; are you going to have a few shots before going into work? or have a shot at work to "relax?" Personally I would not do it regardless of legality, but I would caution any of you out there that do, like it's been mentioned, is it worth your career?
  5. I too, grad. from a BSN program that requires you to take and pass the HESI with a min. score that is chosen by the school on the national avg I believe. Anyway, it was a min. score of 900. We had two chances. My first attempt was not successful but my second time was. They do this to kind of cover their butts as far as the NCLEX goes. The school has to maintain a min. % of first time passers to keep accredited. Which I think is really stupid, but it is what it is. You can't change the system, you work with it or around it right? I think HESI questions are more technical and harder then NCLEX question for a reason. They want to see if you are prepared to take the NCLEX and pass it. No Schools are not allowed to "Gate" test students in most states. But they are however allowed to give you a exit HESI as part of your school final grade. I think all school should do this if not already doing so, not just for the benefit of the school but also for the student. I really don't know what "technically" passed is to be honest. Because at my school you would have "technically" failed and would have taken a semester over again. And As stated above in other replies, I know the state has to get the 'OK" from your school that you have passed all of your classes in order to sit for the NCLEX.
  6. did your school tell you that if you didn't pass your HESI that you could not get your degree and that you only have two chances of doing it? Mine did, I just failed my first one by a couple of points. and I have to remediate and retake in 17 days, If I don't pass this time, they said I don't get my degree and i'm booted from the program after I've passed all my classes and paid them a lot of money for tuition. Seems really wrong to put this kind of pressure on a student. Nursing school is stressfull enough without worrying that you just did all that for nothing.
  7. This standardized "exit" exam, or "gate" exam culture is a multiheaded beast that is the offspring of a pressured school, institutions such as the ANA, and the state regulatory boards to keep the public "safe" from the "knowledge deficit" that new graduating nurse suffer from. It is the entire system and the way that it is set up. Ask ANY working RN where they got all of the vast knowledge in nursing. They will almost all say, "my first two years on the floor." I haven't met a nurse yet that has said, "nursing school." School is there to give you the basics and to prep you for the NCLEX. Well, they are pressured to put out students that will pass the NCLEX their first time the take it. If they do not, it is a mark against them as far as staying an accredited school. Now, most state boards (nursing) will tell you and the school that "gating" is illegal. This is true, as many students have filed suit against schools for not giving them their degrees or not allowing them to sit for the NCLEX. HESI is not a good predictor of NCLEX. This has been a hotly debated issue for a while now. Most instructors would agree that this is true. But on the other side of the coin, you have a company, (HESI, ATI) that need to stay in business. How? well to show the school that "their" testing and instruction is a fine, or good, or a general predictor of how well a student will do with the NCLEX. Don't buy into the hype. Its a sales pitch from the company. They need the schools to think they need their services. HESI, ATI, and others are nothing like the NCLEX. Have you ever noticed how vague, unclear, or confusing HESI questions are? Then How clear, concise, and to the point practice NCLEX questions are? I'm about to take my exit HESI next week and they tell us if we do not meet the min. score of 850 we will not graduate. We have two chances of passing with this min. score. They were told once already by the state board of nursing that they cannot have these types of test. So...what did they do? they just made the test a final and made it count for 25% of your grade. So in incense, even if you have a 100% going into this "final", if you fail it, under the min. 850, you get a 0 for the final which would give you a final grade of 75% which in my school is not passing. We need a min. grade of 77. So though they don't call it a "gate" test, It is. and therefore illegal. They did not tell me this when I was recruited by the school for my BSN. I was looking for accelerated BSN programs since i already had a previous BS degree. They did not inform me "oh by the way, we have an exit exam that we set the standards for, not the state, but us. If you don't pass it, even after you have paid us 40K and passed all your other classes with great grades, we are not going to give you your degree, therefore not letting you take you NCLEX. if that ok? here ya go, sign here please." Really? do you think that maybe i would have thought about going to another school that gives you unlimited chances, or maybe doesn't have one of the illegal exit exams? I understand that if it was explained to me in the beginning of the program, that would be my decision to make. I did not find out about this exit exam until the 3rd semester. We only have 4 semesters in the accelerated program. I'm not going to post which school this is for legal purposes. But they seem only concerned with how much money they are making, and what their reputation is, as far as NCLEX first time pass rate. If any of you whom are reading this, please look at and read the article by the NLN (National League for Nursing) called "The fair testing imperative in nursing education." by the NLN board of governers. on their concerns that schools are being unfair to students. The direct quote from the article, "It is the prevalent use of standardized tests to block graduation or in some other way deny eligibility to take the licensing exam that is most concerning to the NLN." Read it. Know your rights. fight for your education. You are not a score on a standardized test that doesn't measure squat. Sorry this is so long, but I had to get this off my mind for it has been bothering me for a while now. Do I think i'll pass their min. standards test? yes, I do, but that is not the issue. I feel it is a great injustice in the system that needs immediate attention and correction.

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