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Don't be nervous. They take a while, I used to work for NYP/Cornell & the hiring process did take a while. You did your part so just relax. Don't push them too much either.

Out of curiosity. Did you pursue CRNA?

But why would you want to do this to yourself? It's virtually too much work, with excessive workout, work can be so exhausting after the 12hrs that you lose out on life outside of work. The work is full on burnout. So unless you're in the Bay Area of California, where the laws are so amazing (in fact some hospitals only offer 8hr work hours & gave break nurses) or unless you're working PRN only or part time, it's not worth it. I'd stay as a clinical trials nurse or work remote nursing jobs.

The truth is there is burnout everywhere. Just varying types of burnout. See what works best for you & it all depends on what your plans are for the future. Does specializing align with your future goals?

Thank you for the prompt response! Opportunities are endless so it can be tricky. & that is awesome! Congratulations on the flight path! ?

Hi ScottMedicRN. Did you ever pursue PMHNP? In another post from 2020 you mentioned having a desire in it & im curious as I am also a critical care nurse with a desire to transition into psych.

Honestly this is BS of course if you only have psych experience you shouldn't go for ACNP but you can certainly go for psych NP school with ICU experience & thrive tremendously.

I came here to verify this too LOL. Since I plan on endorsing to NYS! Thank you for the information.

No one needs psych RN experience to get into psych NP or psych PA or psychiatry MD. That's just your opinion. The future patients will get better, especially from those who are not gatekeepers of the field like yourself; preventing patients from wider access to mental health providers. You're not "keeping it real" you're plainly trying to gate keep a field that's gaining traction. But I hope you realize you can't stop anyone. Even psych PAs & psychiatry MDs do not need psych experience to get into the field. So I'm not sure where you're getting this idea that RNs need that to get into psych NP schools. Let self funding adults do what they want.

I'm laughing ? because you sound like you need a PMHNP yourself. Someone needs to advocate for your patients because I have no idea what form of encouragement (if any) that you give them. You think you spat some facts but you didn't. I have an ICU background & I'm doing my DNP in PMHNP. I have never worked as a psych RN. OP asked for pros & cons & not a lecture on getting psych experience. Even if you wanted to "advocate" for your patients, the need in the mental health field is far greater than you can sustain. It's OK for people to make pragmatic decisions on what specialty they want to pursue. So yes, there needs to be more mental health providers in the field (psych or no psych experience). Yes, it may be exhausting & draining but that is the nature of anything that is worth pursuing. The OP has worked in med-surg for over 14yrs & has done case management as well as a background in social work. I'm sure she has certainly dealt with psych issues inpatient, even if minimal compared to you. Some of the best pmhnp programs like the Ivy League Col***** University allows their students from the accelerated BSN program to go straight into a DNP in Psych without any bedside nursing or psych experience at all. Graduates of that program are some of the most successful & best PMHNPs there are out there, starting their own practices or working inpatient as that top hospital in NYC hires them directly post graduation. It is the only specialty that the university allows their students to go straight into without any nursing experience. And Col****** university is a teaching institution, an Ivy League, meaning it has done research concluding that as much as psych RN experience might help you in being a PMhNP, you certainly don't need it. You will learn during your training & on the job. So to you, I'll tell you this, calm down & stop trying to gate keep the field because you can not. In terms of someone spending thousands getting into the field, most hospitals pay for one to go back to school so no, I doubt OP is just shelling thousands. & even if she did, that's not what her question was about. Someone who has been in the nursing field for over 14yrs has the right to decide what she wants to do whether you like it or not. To OP- pursue the field & ignore the discouraging naysayers: Pros: you can start your own tele health practice you can serve both adults & peds you don't have to work inpatient only, you can work in other settings as well As you help other patients, you can actually learn mental health strategies for yourself & others it is a very in-demand specialty so you'll definitely get a job Unlike FNP, you'll be able to negotiate your salary & it is higher paying than your RN & FNP (especially in the East Coast- I'm also in the East Coast) You will fall in love with what you do. It is the only specialty that if you chose to work remote (depending on state laws) you can work from anywhere in the world. Cons: if your own practice, you have to strategize to make sure insurance pays you. You may have some denials but you'll learn as you go It can be very mentally exhausting dealing with other people's problems so you will have to strategize some self care routines for yourself Workload will vary based on where you chose to work. Some places worse than others, no standardization. Also depending on patient population that you serve, some patient population for instance in inpatient settings can be extremely wild, so over time, you'll get to chose which workload & setting fits well with your personality and lifestyle. overall, the pros outweigh the cons!

Hi Oncnurse1021, so your offer will be based on your years of experience. I've been a nurse 7years. & I'll be doing nights so they have a standard 10% night differential. On the actual job advert itself, because of salary transparency, you'll see the lowest they can pay & the highest on that scale for the role. If you get a certification you'll get $ for that as well.

Thank you for this clarification because I just came to allnurses to ask this exact question. Because the offer did not include the 10% night differential on the letter. I am honestly impressed at their very competitive rates. They do not allow you to negotiate but I've worked at Cornell & joined NYP/cornell with years of experience thinking they paid the best....I was wrong.,,.MSKCC pays so much better & has such an iron-clad nurses' retention rate which (no hate) but I certainly can't say the same about that hospital across from them.

Congratulations & thank you! So I'm just realizing now that I'm confusing two schools. I'm very far out of state just seeking online hence the no familiarity. I meant University of South Alabama. Not University of Alabama. But thank you again ☺️

Hi I just applied for the fall 2024 BSN-DNP PMHNP. Is there an interview as part of acceptance process? & maybe we can connect too? incase I get accepted as well. It's always good to have a connection with someone in the program.

Curious....How do you find the program so far? Do they also offer part time study? I recently applied to their PMHNP program and would value some feedback ☺️.

I have had this same mental debate of nights vs days. I used to work night shifts but I was on chronic over-the-counter sleep aids (even on my days off) because of a screwed up sleep cycle & inability to naturally sleep. After years on nights my body started rejecting nights, I was getting migraines & I was so drained even though nights were a different kind of busy that could not be compared to days. Meaning there tends to be more downtime on nights. I however prefer being busy, It makes the shift go faster. I transitioned to days & almost instantly felt better overall. Completely stopped over-the-counter sleep aids. I hate waking up super early ? but my body thanks me everyday. I feel so much better. & my work-life balance seems better, I can sometimes meet a friend or so right after work if I'm off the next day (something that didn't happen on nights). My hospital gives a 10% differential on your salary to work nights & trust me it's very tempting because that's several thousands more annually (life is expensive here & that could cover mortgage taxes here) but I don't think I want to feel how I felt after years on nights plus there's so much to learn & see during the day. Plus more resources. I love interacting with more people & I also love the busy & craziness of days. As much as management is around, you're so busy you hardly have time with them or them you. For perspective I don't have kids & I'm not back in school yet. I consider myself a night person but after transitioning to days, I feel like I've become a day person (on my work days ?) & the thought of working nights FT now scares me. & I repeat, I hate waking up super early but I like getting to work on time & I don't want to go back on nights. I say if a day position opens up, apply & try it. You may be converted.

Hi IvyNurse1908, I have applied to this school for their DNP-ACNP program. The deadline is not until June so I am to wait at least 2weeks after the deadline to hear back. I wanted to find out, can you give a little insight on the program so far? I'm curious to know how it is...is it all online? I'm based in another state in the east coast. How is it? How about choice for clinicals?

Hi no experience? ? was this true about the acute care DNP program? I'm highly considering Columbia as my school to return to for DNP in ACNP.

Wow, I really hope you got it. I do see all those requirements. I'm considering applying for 2024. Please share your experience with the application process, what you may recommend & how the program is so far? I'm just as nervous too

Hello. I'm curious, would you mind sharing your experience in the program so far & application process? I'm thinking of applying for 2024.

I'm curious what are the salaries for pmhNP's in NYC? Or even NJ? Do you love the role of being a psych NP or is it really stressful or depressing? LOL, I'm honestly curious because I'm considering it

Any updates from all the applicants? How is the program? The schedule? Cost? Is it hybrid? Do they find clinicals for you? What's your specialty?

Okay, I'm not sure if you answered the question or not but from reading this, I gather, you were able to work full time while going to school fulltime, for the most part.

Hello, that's sad to hear. I was actually considering their AGPCNP program. Which specialty did you do? Was it all online? Aside from the delay in taking the boards what can you say about the program?