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Nurses have an attitude problem. They are catty, cliquey, think they know-it-all, don't care at all what you think (what they say is always right and final), dislike outsiders, newcomers and change, and most of all, rude. I cannot get along with any of them, which is different from other professions. Before you say "then why don't you choose a different career if you don't like it" in typical nursing rudeness/we are the best, the attitude is not appealing.

NEVER Disclose. It's NONE of their business, and don't make it their business. Anytime people hear involuntary hospitalization they think "danger to self or others" and/or "gravely disabled." People are afraid of what this means.. it means somebody supposedly considered you a "danger" to self or others... Look at one of the first posts of this thread, they think some guy is going to run into a mountain range (which appears to be based on pure speculation, but people are put into psych wards based on speculation of what they may or may not do) bc he decided to not disclose some so-called mental illness. So what do people think? Shootings, people crashing planes (probably a reason they will take away your car if called on), ect... while there are HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS if not MILLIONS who will get involuntarily hospitalized. Even those who get some court (even with a public defender/lawyer) who will say they have to be institutionalized, taking away their freedom and rights to refuse drugs/questioning/activities, oftentimes, restrained to a bed or gurney in painful positions. Look for a second on what they might think one is by saying that. It's sickening and frightening what people claimed you were and what people might think if they know. People assume involuntary hospitalization or hospitalization = attempt, but actually it can be bc you say you are being followed/stalked, say people may have poisoned you, disrupt the public in some way, have a history of diagnoses and/or somebody called on you (911, security, ect), say you are bi-polar and a whole plethora of other reasons that people can rationalize to get a person locked up based off what they say or do. How would one like to be the person up late at night thinking, How could I be 'that' person to get institutionalized? This is horrible and not true. Am I really that awful? What if people find out, I would be ostracized, could lose jobs, lost firearm rights (aka, not eligible for military or ROTC, either, or some other jobs), get kicked out of school (read all the online stories of people getting kicked out of school if haven't heard of it, e.g., college stories are out there, but can also be k-12), people could be afraid or think horrible things... even when you are NOT?! Employers, co-workers, schools, and classmates, and/or strangers can think you are a liability if you say somebody diagnosed you before or labeled you with mental illness. There are reasons why statistics out there say "80% unemployment" and "50% of employers" will think twice about hiring somebody who says they have... "62% of workers say they would not work with somebody with schizophrenia." These are really, imo, low statistics for what the life-long issue could be with the public. Keep It a Secret! Expunge those documents, petition, seal those records, and tell no one. I cannot emphasize it enough... it's a rough world out there and you don't know how somebody could react including long-term ramifications. This is an anonymous board vs public. There's a reason why requests for medical records will say "HIV/AIDS/STD" info and "mental illness/diagnosis" information to be sealed and such on the form... it can be damaging if people know.

I didn't like chemistry either, took general chem for science majors, and also got a B... you can still get into programs with that, and for many/most, don't need more chemistry. Organic and biochem is recommended for some programs, though. I've noticed most programs (at least for ADN) focus on anatomy, physiology, and microbiology pre-reqs the most for points. Good luck!

Tell NO one. People can complain or report to the BON and it could cause disciplinary action or a required diversion/monitoring program. That could affect your job. In California: Board of Registered Nursing - What is the Diversion Program? On one thread on here, somebody said they had been "'anonymously' reported to the BON as being psychologically unable to do their job".. and that probably required a psych eval and you NEVER want to go on one bc they always will give you some diagnosis. It is scary, but if you tell no one, then no one can 'complain' or report or anything like that... it's a death sentence if you tell people professionally, legally, socially, and so on. If you don't let anyone know, I think you can squeak by the diversions, monitoring, disciplinary action ect, but it's unfortunately always a risk to your job if somebody finds out or suspects. Keep your information private and don't disclose. It also depends on the state for the licensing application... I looked at the CA website, and there isn't one (Citizen's Commission of Human Rights headquarters in Los Angeles?) q about it.. however, in Ohio, IL, TX, maybe PA and I think some other states ask on the application. TX is especially bad I read, saying back for 5 years and asking each 2 years: https://allnurses.com/general-nursing-discussion/involuntary-psych-ward-642835-page2.html I'm happy in California where it's not asked on licensing.. but it's still a risk for complaints, reporting, and disciplinary action. So still scary, but not impossible. Don't Disclose to anyone, you can also expunge the records, seal them, and I think you can petition for firearm rights if it was taken away by involuntary action.

I always try to at least do something for 1 year minimum. If I want to do something else or move "up," then I do... Looking at this, 1 year is not very long, but it's also just long enough for a commitment. Maybe apply for other jobs as you wait for this one? There are some new grads who get jobs with little experience... you can probably get a job based off your experience, although it is spotty. What state is this in? Some states, like where chaos lives, supposedly 80%+ of new grads are hired before even walking for graduation, although I don't think they are good jobs and personally I'd never want to work in that state/region or live there... In Cali it's harder bc so many people want to live here. Maybe there's also less "turn-over-rate" of employees here. I think there are also unions and possibly better work conditions here, which I don't think some other states, like the one mentioned, has. I would keep looking. Experience is still experience... and good references are still good references. It's still better to at least have 1 year though before moving on in my book and really, for any commitment generally. Though longer than that looks better, 1 year is also good. All you have to say is you found better opportunities, such as the job you are applying for. It could also be location... I don't see resigning as a "nail-in-the-coffin" as you think. Don't get discouraged at all. Good luck!! :)

What do you mean? I remember I took the HESI on the computer at a test proctoring site at my university. It wasn't on paper. I think most of the answers are selected through multiple choice, but it was 1 1/2 years when I took it, so I would double check. Or somebody else can answer. There might be a study-book which would show what it looks like. You might be able to look for websites in the search engine for HESI math examples, too, to know what to expect. It's basically simple math with little advanced math on it. It seemed slightly easier than the TEAS to me. You can also use scratch paper, I think, but you have to turn it in afterwards to the test proctors. They'll also ask for ID.

My highest score on the HESI was in math and was 94%. I took it Dec '13. I don't think I studied for it... it seemed easier than the TEAS test and I scored slightly higher (I think 84% cumulative). It's nice you can use a calculator for the HESI vs the TEAS, though I had a high math score on the TEAS also (I think 92%?). It is basic math... I don't really remember any algebra problems or even intermediate algebra. I took statistics, however, before which may have helped with the proportions. I had A's in both intermediate algebra (although on transcript just says "credit" bc petitioned for that early on) and an A in statistics.. which could have helped. I'd recommend studying, though... that's the best course of action. I did get into a program with that score... but it was O-O-S and private (highly expensive).. so try getting a higher score. The previous poster has some good suggestions.

I probably will consider applying to Butte's LVN program along with getting on their Butte lottery/waitlist. It typically takes 6 semesters to get into the RN program, and I really should have been on the WL 2 years ago, but didn't apply.. so I am 2 years behind. I will also be applying to ADN programs throughout Cali and saving for a car as well as living costs/paying off credit debt. It's possible I could get into a different ADN program in Cali before Butte... I just don't have the statistics to figure that out. I've emailed them, but they don't seem to give that out it seems.

I can only think of hospital volunteering... or jobs which will not likely count to improving your chances of being admitted to RN school.

Don't EVER disclose that you were diagnosed with Anything. It can be a life-long death sentence legally, socially, career-wise, and so many other ways. =[ Also, you don't have to agree with what is said to you, unless involuntarily forced, but you can go back to normal afterwards. Don't disclose to your school, your employer, your friends, or anyone.

That's good that it is easier. I hope it keeps going well! :)

I assumed she had talked to him before bc she said "over the year I fell for a medical student"... if she hadn't ever talked to him, just saw him, and messaged, this wouldn't be a good thing and could see how that would put somebody off. Usually you have to talk to somebody first before you can find them on facebook.. like first and last name, the university they went to, ect.. and/or mutual friends (which makes it easier).. so I just assumed she'd talked to him before. Yeah, there is. Baylor University has that motto lol . I didn't believe it til I went to that area and saw.. I think there's quite a few people there who go to college in that area (or maybe even region?) just to find somebody to marry. They seem to marry at earlier ages, too, over there than Cali/west As for they guy which said some medical students, residents, ect "string several women along at once".. well, those guys doing that are kind of.. jerks . Thankfully, my guy friends now aren't like that, including that medical student friend I mentioned. That's why people should become friends first... Granted, I haven't been on clinicals in a hospital with medical resident students, so no idea what that would look like. There was a medical student who did some shadowing of an opthamologist I shadowed too... but he wasn't around long enough for me to really get to know him. I've mostly known pre-health professional students. I'd say it's NOT cool though, when there's a huge group of people (like other women) around. One time a pre-med (I'm not that impressed by that though.. bc they can not get accepted to any schools.. that happened to one volunteer at a free clinic that I met/sort of knew) seemed to come over at the science study table and gave clues he was interested, like I think wanted to exchange numbers ect and wanted to hang out in downtown, but then at the pre-med meeting, guess what, the MORE I tried to talk to him the MORE the OTHER women went to talk to him, so, I barely got to talk to him at all. lolz... Idr his name, but it's true that the physican or pre-healthcare professional thing can attract people. Sometimes, I think the nursing thing can attract guys too bc of the whole "caring for others" thing stereotype...

LOL.. I wouldn't say finding a person on fb and msging them is stalkerish... Otherwise.. I guess I've done it a TON of times! But yeah, as George said, it could be going to the "other" box bc if you aren't friends on facebook, then it goes to that box. Sometimes if you pay $1, it will go to the inbox, but only if it's your first msg to them. There's also a "check mark" below the msg you send to say if they ever read your message. I'd say some people are really easier to "friend" on fb than others... people from HS or you've met from school or clubs is very easy, but some groups can be hard :/ Like one time I thought of doing pre-med, and I tried "friending" the leadership board before applying to a position... they didn't accept. Sometimes pre-meds, medical students, and others in "high-paying jobs" are very.. erm.. closed-off? Same for some Harvard undergrads I "thought" I had befriended at a scholarship summit, but turns out, er.. no. They "friended" each other on facebook (even though just met also), but not me and denied my requests... sometimes people are exclusive? It tends to get more that way with increases in income and such it seems. Don't take it personally.. granted, I do have a med school friend, but I think he liked me, and also I knew him BEFORE he applied to med school and was unsure.. also he goes to the caribbean, not that it makes much of a diff. But we're just friends right now and likely it will stay that way, idk. It's best, in the book, to become friends with a person first to be safe. You're trying to become his friend, but it seems like he might not even want that. He could be snobby.. it's a possibility. Some people are also just.. stand-offish. But there are plenty of other guys out there.. and also in the medical field at all levels if you think they're hot. Good luck :) Also, if you do end up dating a medical guy, you're going to get a lot of jealous women.. who can be catty, imo. Just a warning.. There are actually a bunch of people out there who think "ring before spring".. there's actually a motto like that for a school I know of...

I didn't know you had car and student loans... but I think student loans can get deferred when you re-enter school? Or am I wrong? There are many federal school loans... I think there's Stafford, Subsidized and unsubsidized Direct Loans, and some others. I don't think federal school loans do credit score checks. [COLOR=#990000]"How do Federal Student Loans use Credit Scores?[/COLOR] The Stafford, Perkins and PLUS loans do not depend on your credit score. The Stafford and Perkins loans are available entirely without regard to your credit history. The PLUS loan, however, requires that the borrower not have an adverse credit history. An adverse credit history is defined as being more than 90 days late on any debt or having any Title IV debt within the past five years subjected to default determination, bankruptcy discharge, foreclosure, repossession, tax lien, wage garnishment, or write-off." http://www.finaid.org/loans/creditscores.phtml You should be eligible for federal loans? You can also ask for deferment of those loans while in another college program (many grad students do this, but it can also be done for any college work), although the interest still accrues.: https://studentaid.ed.gov/repay-loans/deferment-forbearance [TABLE=align: left] [TR] [TH] Situations When You May Apply for Deferment [/TH] [TH=colspan: 3] Deferment Available? (and for how long, if applicable) [/TH] [/TR] [TR] [TH] Direct Loans [/TH] [TH] FFEL loans [/TH] [TH] Perkins Loans [/TH] [/TR] [TR] [TD=width: 56%] During a period of at least half-time enrollment in college or career school [/TD] [TD=width: 14%] Yes [/TD] [TD=width: 13%] Yes [/TD] [TD=width: 15%] Yes [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] And/Or maybe people on here can refer to night programs?

Where are these areas? It usually doesn't apply to California public colleges. I'm not surprised by ADNs from O-O-S, but hearing that of state (BSN) programs is surprising. I guess you could get lower grades with an LVN-RN bridge, too... or even an RN-BSN bridge. But if one wants to go straight in, to BSN, usually they need very high GPAs. But not getting A's in school will lock a person out from obtaining advanced practice MSNs.