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Poor RN professional conduct
Tattling sounds pretty high school to me. How about "I appreciate you letting me in on the secret, but we've had this no eating and drinking rule for years and I don't think that it is appropriate to break that rule given the risk to patient safety. Out of respect for me and our patients could you please empty out the drawer". After said PROFESSIONAL conversation, if the matter is not resolved then get management involved. After all, we all have bad days - creating enemies that will turn right back around to report YOU for every little thing is needless. Talk first. =]
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Poor RN professional conduct
This is silly. You've essentially created a divide in your unit. Experienced nurses vs new grads. There is literally nothing good that can come of this. The new grads will feel you are unapproachable, they won't ask questions, and then you'll get mad if they make a mistake. And the cycle will repeat over and over. Sometimes you have to meet people half way and realize that at the end of the day...we're all the same. I think you need to take a really hard look at yourself and realize what it means when you start deciding that you are BETTER than those around you. Maybe use your professional communication skills next time to strengthen your team as a whole rather than tear them down.
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[POLL] is it a reason to NOT pursue nursing anymore?
This is what I'm thinking. It would be a disservice to teach you to be a nurse in English when your career will require you to be a nurse in Korean. What I mean by this is that there is a large gap in vocabulary between medical personnel (like nurses) and the average joe on the street (not that there is anything wrong with joe). Teaching you medical vocabulary and terminology in English is a disservice to you as a professional that will likely have to use these terms to speak with patients and coworkers in Korean. Maybe your application process was in English, but a program that does not teach you to be successful in the environment you are in would not be worth pursuing. Maybe it's true that most Koreans speak English..I don't know, but I do know that all Koreans speak Korean ...so it is important that your education prepare you for that.
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Future RN wanting to be an Anesthesiologist
Go to medical school if you want to be a doctor. Your nursing school pre-reqs will not be the same as your med school pre-reqs and by the time you start clinicals, you won't have time to finish everything you need for the MCAT. Doctors and nurses have entirely different scopes of practice and thought processes - while having experience in a hospital setting may be beneficial to your medical school application, it doesn't sound like you really intend to get that experience - best advice - pick one of the equally rewarding careers you are debating between and go for it...don't do both.
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Nursing Program Question
A BSN degree is 2 years of prerequisites and general education and 2 years in a nursing program. At my school, you started as a "pre-nursing" major and then in your sophomore year you applied for the nursing program. From what I've seen, none of the programs in my area require an associates degree. But if you want a BSN then it's going to be more than just the standard pre-reqs and you probably won't be able to get it at a community college.
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A simple list of what nurses do on a regular basis.
I have no idea how long it takes to become an LPN. But it sounds like you're gonna do pre reqs. LPN. The 2 years to be an RN. Then 1-3 years to go RN-BSN, 2+ years of critical care experience, 3 years of intense full time CRNA school and then 4 years of medical school (assuming you have all the medical school prerequisites) and then another 3-4 years of residency for your specialty. That's over 2 decades worth of education before landing in your final career (with no experience). I would suggest doing a little more research on what it is you want to be.
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How do CRNAs get treated by MDAs ?
My Mom LOVES being a CRNA. She gets along fine with the Anesthesiologists and many of the MDs in the hospital request her specifically for their cases. I think you just came across a wonky thread - any intelligent MD understands the value of a good nurse.
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Lost and confused. Would appreciate any advice!
I was a lot like you. Top 7% in my high school and then just...tanked in college (as a bio major). Bad grades, depression...all of it. I will admit that the lowest my GPA ever got was 2.8 BUT some of those bad grades were nursing pre-reqs so...it was bad. My advisor told me that there was no way I could get into a nursing program. But I retook all the classes I got Ds and Fs in. Brought my GPA back up above a 3.0. I actually wound up transferring schools and graduating with my B.A in biology. I will say that for the most part (after retaking some) I had a good GPA in my pre-reqs. I think my degree helped me to show the nursing programs I applied to that I was determined (never a bad thing). I got into an ADN program with a bridge option to BSN. So, what I'm saying is it's possible - it just might not be as clean of a path getting there. Maybe you'll have to get an associates first and then bridge...and that's okay. But getting your GPA up and retaking failed classes is a MUST.
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Just a rant rn-bsn
I haven't even started my program yet and just to accept my seat (no tuition involved) is $700 dollars. Plus $50 for sending my transcripts and $65 to apply.... Add in the cost of books for my first semester $1000 and all the miscellaneous tasks to complete $500 and I'll have spent over $2000 BEFORE ever touching my tuition. But just think....in 2 years I'll have a bad*** career!!! **Excited despite the $$**
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Question About Change to DNP
From what I've seen. MSN and DNP programs require a BSN...maybe there's a MSN bridge since you have a prior degree...but DNP you will definitely need a BSN...along with several years of critical care experience...and most hospitals want BSNs for those positions...just something to think about. I think most programs are phasing out their masters programs for NP over the next few years ... And even if you found one still going when you're ready to attend. Which new grad is going to get the job? The DNP or the MSN? Food for thought
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GPA to become a nurse?
I failed a class once and had an adviser tell me to change my major "biology" and that there was no way I could ever get into medical school whether it be nursing, respiratory therapy ect. So I told HIM that it was his job to build students up and tell them their next step, not tear them down and step on all their dreams. I then went on to retake the classes, land a research position, transfer to an honors university, graduate with a degree in biology and get into a BSN program. Advisers are not the end all be all. Retake the classes. Do better. And prove them wrong.
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Feeling like a real idiot
Maybe I'm off base. But your username is "4mykids" ... What are you teaching them by just...giving up. You did the hard part. You got through school...and now you're just going to quit...without even knowing what your results are? I'm sorry. I know you're upset right now and you want to vent but ... Saying you're never going to take it again? You're selling yourself short and wasting years of money and education. And when your kids are asked what you do "well....she has a degree in nursing....but she didn't believe in herself enough to use it". Not a great message. You're smart enough to do this...you've already proven that. So get your results, find out what to study, and then try try again!
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Nursing to Doctor
I think you're digging a bigger hole with that one. There are 7 nurses in my family and I guarantee you they will say they do make the biggest impact. They advocate, medicate, get meals, make them comfortable. Unless you're a surgeon, a Doctors impact is limited to diagnosis, treatment and follow up - and nurses take care of 2 of those things while they're in the hospital. I don't think you're going to find what you want on this site. The nurses on here are rightfully proud of what they do - it could be offensive to hear someone belittling their efforts...which you are unintentionally doing by implying that they just follow orders and have less of a medical impact.
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Prescriptions and Drug Testing
A few months
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Prescriptions and Drug Testing
So I will be starting nursing school Fall 2014 and one of the requirements for the program is a drug and background test. A while back my physician thought that I may have a mild case of ADHD and prescribed Vyvanse to see if it would help. It didn't so I quit taking it. Because vyvanse is an amphetamine type drug, I know that it gets flagged on drug tests. I haven't taken it in several months, however, and I'm worried about the perception my teachers would have of me if they knew I had at one point a treating psychiatrist and vyvanse prescription. So what do I do? Hope it's out of my system and the drug test doesn't take hair? Or disclose it up front even though it likely wouldn't show up on a urine screen? Thanks for your help
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[POLL] is it a reason to NOT pursue nursing anymore?
I think have a Spanish option at the ATM or on an automated phone line is a reasonable accommodation given that we live in a country with such a prevalent Hispanic community. Having professors make up special exams for the single american in their class, is not. That's the only point I was making. Add that to the reputation Americans have for snubbing other cultures...and you get my comment.
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[POLL] is it a reason to NOT pursue nursing anymore?
I'll agree to that. The French for example (haha)...I just felt op was being unrealistic in their expectations for accommodation... Culture is a wonderful thing... I wish more people were open to experiencing it.
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[POLL] is it a reason to NOT pursue nursing anymore?
And yet Americans are known for their closed mindedness when it comes to culture and language. It's not ignorance. It's an observation of my own culture.
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[POLL] is it a reason to NOT pursue nursing anymore?
Not sure why you're arguing with me. You just made my point. The op is in Korea. He should learn Korean. The end. Also, you have no way of knowing how long those "people" have been in our country. So you can't judge. Op has clearly been in Korea for a good amount of time.
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[POLL] is it a reason to NOT pursue nursing anymore?
Sigh. Only Americans can move to a foreign country and get mad they don't speak English. I would learn the language and culture of the country you're in. They don't owe you anything.
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Graduating High School with ASN
It may take 2 years to get an associates in nursing, but for most people it takes an additional year or two to take all the prerequisites. Take a look at some of the requirements for the programs around you and take those as part of your duel enrollment. Also, it's not just "preferred" to have a BSN...in many places it's required. If time and money is an issue, you're better off spending 4 years on a BSN than taking a year of pre-reqs, 2 years of nursing school, and then 2-3 years for the RN-BSN... Just go all in from the start
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Really need some great advice
OP my advice to you would be to continue on. Retake courses if you can - but don't quit. I got a C in a&p 1 and FAILED a&p 2 the first time I took it. I later retook it and got a B. I have a ton of withdrawals on my record and my overall GPA is a 3.0.... But I'm starting in a very selective associates to bachelors program this fall that will let me get my BSN in 2.5 years while concurrently getting my ASN. My school has a 93% 1st time pass rate for the NCLEX and an awesome reputation in the community. Show the admissions committee that you're dedicated, that you don't give up, and that you know how to adapt to your learning environment... That's really all you can do.
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I want to do a BS Biology Major through Excelsior but they will only let me do a BA?
As someone who just finished a biology degree, I would caution you not to take it lightly. I don't know about the school you're talking about but in my experience, there is no testing out. Courses change every semester based on the current literature. It is not an easy major. And it also is not helping me one bit for nursing. Chemistry might be a better major for CRNA school but that's going to be just as challenging.
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What was your GPA, when you got accepted into nursing school?
3.0 but I have a bio degree and scored in the 99th percentile on TEAS. Starting my associates to bachelors program in August =] yay
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Possible needle stick
If there's no mark in your glove I don't see how you could have gotten a stick. And if it just grazed you. It's really really unlikely that there was enough blood or penetration to transmit a blood born pathogen. I think you're just freaking out. It's okay =]