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Analyze this situation -I'm POed
Circulating a cardiac case, standard CABG X 4 with a radial arm harvest on a younger gentleman. Surgeon is a spaz, throws little fits and is about the most impatient man i've ever met. But it's more comical than anything, almost like a cartoon character, he really doesn't bother me. Well, the PA was done with the radial harvest and I went over to clean off his mayo stand and retrieve the countables. He had 3 empty suture packs but only two sutures. He's a high maintanance PA and comes into the room thinking he's one of the surgeons. I ask him how many sutures he was supposed to have. He said 3, that they're on the needleholders. I look again and can only find 2. He starts yelling that they're right there and that if I look i'll find them. Again I say you only have 2 here. Now the surgeon gets into the middle of it and tells us to be quiet and that he doen't want to hear another word about it. I tell him that there's a missing suture. He doesn't care. So I let it go for a few minutes and then casually start looking around the floor where the PA is standing. Suture is stuck to the bottom of his foot. I say loudly here it is and pick it off his foot. No apology, no nothing. I'm mad and was mad the rest of the case. Mad that the surgeon could care less that there was a missing suture. Mad that the PA insinuated that I was some sort of a moron and they thing was stuck to his foot the whole time. And mad that this moron left the case shortly thereafter and would have left me one needle short and could have tracked it into another case throwing their count off. Thoughts? Am I being oversensitive and should I have just let it go?
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Difference Between RNFA and Surg. PA?
A NP first assistant and a surgical PA are roughly equivalent.
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Do I need a Stethoscope????
Never seen any nurse where I work wear one in the OR. Grab one from anesthesia if for some reason you ever needed one.
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Length of orientation??
5-6 months
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Are Techs And RN's equal in managements eyes?
RNs are viewed more highly because of their versatility and the ability to legally do things techs can't do. Techs just have less responsibility, especially from a legal standpoint and more important from a patient care standpoint. That's not to say techs aren't valuable though.
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help! Are surgical techs and RNs the same??
I'd probably leave just to spite them.
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Staffing in Total Joint Cases
1- orthopod 1- PA or SA 1- circulator 2- scrubs (one holds retractors)
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$$$ Compensation for not completing OR orientation
Not judging you. If the situation is bad, paying them off may be money well spent.
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$$$ Compensation for not completing OR orientation
Did you sign anything?
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Too noisy during turnover??
I would have told her to F off, but that's just me.
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Verbal Abuse in OR
Probably not much you can do about it this time but atleast he knows you're not going to just sit back and take it. I tell you, surgeons can be some of the biggest a-holes on the planet. I've found they run either hot or cold, either really cool or really bad. I don't get it, nurses and techs are there to help them and some are not only unappreciative but downright hostile.
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Sacred cows that need to be laid to rest
I've also had a foley balloon that wouldn't deflate, something defective with the valve maybe. Luckily I tested it before inserting it in the patient. Also why would someone else test your balloon for you. I've never had that happen to me. It only takes a few seconds to test the balloon. :dunno:
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Will circulators be RNs in the future?
Have you ever been a circulator? We've had a number of techs go back to school to be nurses and were amazed at how difficult the job was and the things we do that few realize. They too were under the impression that we were nothing but glorified gophers until they actually stepped into the job. Or maybe it's the hospital you work at. We had a cardiac case go bad last week. I was the one doing the chest compressions and dictating jobs until the surgeon could get back into the room.
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Will circulators be RNs in the future?
Watch a cardiac case that goes bad and tell me the patient wasn't lucky to have an RN in the room. A person who knows what to do and why it's being done.
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Will circulators be RNs in the future?
How much time have you spent in the OR? You have a warped and incorrect belief on what OR nurses actually do. These checks are crucial after a carotid, patient doesn't leave until all four limbs are moving. Whether the PACU nurse does a post op check is inconsequential. There are many more examples but you just asked for one.