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Sigh.....Suspension
I chose not to work during this past year and intentionally took some time off. I haven't started applying yet, but once my license becomes unencumbered in May, I believe it will be much easier to find opportunities. It's definitely possible your previous job could give you a second chance, after all, they know you and your work ethic best. Keep your hopes high, and wishing you the very best of luck.
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Sigh.....Suspension
Yes, exactly, but it was two narcotics that were not counted for. Just thinking of my case makes me mad. They didn't really know where to place my case, so they defaulted to administrative probation.
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Help! Advice needed HPRP Michigan
You're right, I meant to say "suspend"
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Probation
this is not true for all states!! States that are widely considered non-protective: In these states, BON involvement almost always becomes public, even for minor issues: Michigan Arizona New Jersey Georgia Washington Oregon these states do not have alternative to discipline. If the BON issues any formal action, probation, reprimand, citation, it will almost always be public, regardless of monitoring.
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Sigh.....Suspension
this was my case; I was never found eligible for monitoring. As a result, the BON issued one year of administrative probation related to two non-charted medications. I had no restrictions, just quarterly sign offs. My license was never inactive, so I do not need to reinstate it. Once the year is complete, my license will automatically return to unencumbered status.
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Sigh.....Suspension
This typically results in a 1–2 year period of administrative probation, with required quarterly verification from your manager. no restrictions or another other drug related consequences... this is from personal experience, BON gave me 1 year probation, but I have no restrictions and im not required to work, so I took the year off.
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Help! Advice needed HPRP Michigan
My understanding is that avoiding HPRP often involves surrendering or inactivating a license, with reinstatement later requiring monitoring. I think this is how you could avoid the program temporarily.....
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Hprp evaluation
If you are 1000000% sure they have absolutely nothing on you, then I would 10000000% go for it. screw. them!! I wanted to do the same thing, but I had missed two charting on two narcs (or maybe one was back charted I cant remember it right now) and had already spent $8-10k, so I just said forget it. It takes more money and time to go through the administrative law, and every time they reschedule the date - you'll have to pay your lawyer, unless you don't have a lawyer then go all the way. Still, please make sure to consult with your lawyer or someone who can give you legal advice. That was just my case. They still gave me a one-year probation. I was too scared at the time, now that I'm on the other side, I wish I had been more firm on fighting them but also MI BON is ruthless.
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Help! Advice needed HPRP Michigan
I would also suggest you get a lawyer right away too. I'm only telling you what I did and went through. You can do all the extra things on the side, and they might help, if your case ever ends up in front of a judge. A judge could take those efforts into consideration.....but when it comes to the BON, their process is their process. BON has no-one above them, so if they say jump; you have to jump!! BON can override or disregard a judge's recommendation (that is why I say please get a lawyer, you don't want to deal with BON alone, they are intimidating and will break you.) Once they refer you for an evaluation, the decision is essentially made, you have to call them and go through the evaluation. There's no way around it. nothing you do on the side matters to them. What matters most to the BON is your evaluator's report and the drug testing you will be going through in pre decision for eligibility. That's what they base their decision on, not your intentions, not your words. The evaluator holds a lot of weight in how your case is handled. I went through this too. I had prescribed meds for anxiety but I refilled my RX so very rarely those weren't even damaging for me, I still wasn't eligible for monitoring because all of my answers matched perfectly with every cross-reference. Your evaluator will communicate with both hprp and the BON, they're all in contact with each other throughout the process (you will sign ROI for all of them to talk to each other.) Everything you say has to line up, because they will compare it all. Everyone's case is different, but the path stays the same once hprp is involved. try commenting on other threads so you can DM me privately, I'm more than happy to talk one-on-one and help however I can.
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Accused of diverting (WHEN I WOULD NEVER )NEVER)
What you're going through right now is hell, probably one of the most stressful things you'll ever go through. I've been there. But you will not lose your license. You will go through a tough time, but you can survive it. what I did for myself and what I advice is to : get a lawyer, get a travel job (make the money and go on with your life) Get a lawyer immediately, one who specifically handles cases with the BON- a good one. your lawyer, it's going to be expensive, but you won't have to speak to the BON yourself, your lawyer will handle everything. I mean everything, but that will cost you. Take a travel nurse job right now. thats what I did. get one that pays well. you'll need 10K. That move saved me, I was working and earning while all the investigation was going on. Your old job is done, you don't owe them anything anymore. You're not there to prove your worth to them. The only people you need to answer to now are the BON and they will come after you, but they are slow, so live your life until then. I went through this and I still have my license. I never spoke to the Board personally, not once. You'll get through this. go about your life like nothing has happened, because right now nothing is happening, you have your license, use it.
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Help! Advice needed HPRP Michigan
Be direct and factual when calling hprp. Let them know why you're calling without going into details. For example, when I called I said, "I'm dealing with an investigation involving LARA, and my attorney advised me to contact you.” No need to explain further, let them guide the process. it's either mental health or substance. Here's what to expect: You'll complete an intake ( mainly a history of your meds, be honest about your prescription history and when you last took any medications. Basically, your MAPs. You can't lie or leave anything out. The evaluator will get your MAPs report, and everything you say during the intake will be cross-referenced with that. After the evaluation, the provider will submit a written report ( mine was pages long) with their assessment and recommendation. If your story doesn't match across the board, it's a red flag, so make sure everything lines up.) You'll be entered into their system ( check-ins daily) you'll sign tons of ROI (too many people end up knowing more about you than you'd ever want a stranger to know.) Weekly drug testing will begin (until the final decision if you're eligible to enter the program) You'll choose one evaluator from a list of three they provide. (the evaluator is the one who can make or break you, they hold a lot of power in determining your path with hprp. Their report carries serious weight in the final decision) You'll also be asked to provide three personal references for the evaluator to contact, people who can speak to your character and behavior. After the evaluation, they'll determine whether hprp monitoring is necessary. If you haven't already: stop all THC use immediately and be ready to explain what led to the positive result ( edible at a party, using for sleep, etc.). But again, keep the explanation factual and let the evaluator decide how to interpret it. Don't feel like you have to fill the silence with words. They don't care if you've lost all desire to use, to them, you're just part of their daily routine. My advice? Don't stress. If I had to go through this process again, I wouldn't waste so much energy on anxiety, trying to prove I was a good person. The truth is, they don't care. For them, it's just another day, another case. feel free to message me on private. good luck.
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How long does it take to get license reinstated after suspension?
My consent order includes a 60-day suspension, which I got this consent order before any compliance meeting or hearing. I have a zoom meeting next week to request that it be lifted, but my lawyer said that suspensions are rarely lifted before the time, so I will likely serve the full 60 days before my administrative hearing which is in May. To be honest, I don't even know why I have these meetings, because my lawyer already gave me my consent order, which includes a sixty day suspension and one year probation. My case has moved relatively quickly; my license was suspended last week, and my hearing to lift the suspension is scheduled for the first Thursday of next month, which is their usual meeting time. My administrative hearing will take place in May. I believe my lawyer played a role in expediting the process, but outcomes can vary based on the case, state, and attorney. From my initial interview with the investigator mid-October (but I didn't even know I was getting investigated) to my administrative hearing in mid-May, the entire process will take about 7-8 months. Hope this helps!
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Diversion for Criminal Charges
has anyone worked from home/remote on probation? I don't have any restrictions on my license, I just need 4 quarterly check ins from a manager and I'll get automatically off probation.
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Diversion for Criminal Charges
I appreciate your good words, really, it means a lot. as a human I feel defeated, it's very hard to accept "guilt" for something that it doesn't need this much punishment, there isn't one nurse one this universe that hasn't missed a waste or two. but I know life isn't fair, so I'm ready to move on. either way, im glad its over for now. and thank you for your advice throughout this, truly.
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Diversion for Criminal Charges
so they gave me 1 year probation working as a nurse, thats all. it'll be 2 years if I don't work. I want to fight it but I have nothing left in me. this entire situation has ruining my love for nursing...
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Help! Advice needed HPRP Michigan
Who gave you the contract? You said you did 2 evals? Both from HPRP? I did one and I'm still waiting what will they decide. I'm scared if they ask me to do another one. I thought the addictionologist gives the diagnosis ... its bs you're even getting a contract but I guess it's better than 5 years. Ugh
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Help! Advice needed HPRP Michigan
how long is your contract? did you sign a contract already or are you being evaluated? when I went through evaluation I was tested 5x a month.
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Is it even worth it?
any update on your story? where are you now with the BON or criminal charges? do you still have your nursing license?
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Help! Advice needed HPRP Michigan
Why wasn't it legal? How long is your agreement? Have you talked to any of the BON people? I'm so afraid they will ask me to do a second evaluation with HPRP .... mine is not owi, just suspected diversion with no proof, just not charted. I just want this to be over. I want my life back. Every email, every text I feel like it's BON ... I hate this so much
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Help! Advice needed HPRP Michigan
when you did your first evaluation, was it HPRP approved? (im sorry if I missed it while reading you posts). and also did you enter a second evaluation? my case is a bit different, but I did enter evaluation myself with hprp and hprp closed my case with no diagnosis. now im waiting for BON but im afraid they could push monitoring for me, or evaluation again....im loosing my mind until I'm cleared or I hear anything from BON
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Diversion for Criminal Charges
you might be right, because when I was going through the peer program the investigator asked for a release of info agreement for my peer program, the first week I entered. and when the evaluator interview me, she knew things before I even said my answers. either way, im still waiting.... for something from BON.
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Diversion for Criminal Charges
pulled from Pyxis but not scanned/ charted. yes, it was a suspected diversion. basically where are the vials if you didn't scan them....
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Diversion for Criminal Charges
I hope so. I really don't know what it means with the BON. I just went through the process, joining my peer assistance program, to save my license. my report from the addiction specialist is 5 pages long, it was over an hour interview. I hope it did me justice with the BON as well. Im stilling checking my mail and email everyday with anxiety. Im still not cleared from BON though, and I don't know how close the BON and the peer program work together. I cant wait for this to be over.
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Diversion for Criminal Charges
So this was my story. I didn't even know I was being investigated at all. One beautiful day I get a letter in the mail and email that I'm getting investigated regarding some discrepancies, two to be exact. I got a lawyer right away. After I had my interview with the investigator, my lawyer said, enter the peer program and tell them you are in trouble with the board for suspected diversion, and let them evaluate you. And so I did. I had my intake, I had 1.5 months of urine tests, I had a drug addiction specialist evaluate me. This person talked to the board, talked to my psychiatrist, looked at my MAPS and talked to three of my support system. On a Thursday, they met and discussed my case, the next day, Friday they called me and they said they don't have a diagnosis for me so my case will be closed. Now I'm waiting for what the board is going to do with me. But at this time I won't be doing the peer program not because I CHOOSE not to do so but because they cleared me. Anyone that's in trouble with the board can enter the program that doesn't mean I have a SUD or mental health. You have to get evaluated to get a monitoring agreement. but like I said this is my story .... That's all I have for you
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Diversion for Criminal Charges
no they didn't qualify me as a SUD or mental health so they closed my case. I was evaluated for an entire month, did the drug tests and got an evaluation and they said they don't have a diagnosis for me so they let me go. when you do your intake, they give you a few options for evaluators . who ever you pick from the list, they will look at your file while in the program and evaluate you, if they don't give you a diagnosis then you might not be eligible to do the program. I didn't have a diagnosis but I also didn't admit to any SUD. every case is different I suppose, I enter the program on my own to get evaluated for sud or mental health.