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I’m a 34 yo mom of 2 little ones, CCRN RN, have a mortgage to pay, and husband laid off due to COVID19. I also have severe asthma and am on a prednisone burst right now. My state licensing board has addressed this by saying we are required to follow guidelines set by CDC and to refuse care is to lose our license. I feel obligated and I feel like I’m risking my life. I did not sign up for unsafe practices, I don’t care who thinks we need to sacrifice our lives, I think it’s blatantly wrong. In addition to that, we always talk about flattening the curve, but if we aren’t caring for nurses, the line we are flattening the curve towards also drops as nurses get sick and some die. I want to raise my kids. I want to pay my mortgage. I want to keep people alive. I don’t want to die doing it.

The OHSU transition is non-competitive, the bridge program is mostly online as well. Also, as for clinicals, all OCNE programs have the same required clinicals/hours as OHSU; one does not have more than others. The biggest thing when comparing schools is reputation, just ask a nurse you already know working in a hospital who the best students are to get an idea.

Christy, Thank you, and now, I did not really have medical experience, I did have a lot of volunteer experience though. I spent a few months in Baton Rouge and New Orleans helping with Katrina recovery, and worked directly with victims; and I was a house-mom for women in recovery from addiction and abuse. I also had a couple other small volunteer opportunities.

Hi everyone! Wanted to send my best wishes to you all, I was in your shoes last year and now I am a student at MHCC. If you have any questions about the program/process I'd be happy to help. As for MHCC, I'll say that I love the program and my cohort is my new extended family- everyone is amazing. I hope you all get to experience the love of a nursing cohort in your futures too! I want to encourage anyone who is nervous about their points and how they compare to others to NOT worry about it. I was accepted at CCC and MHCC, had a gpa of around 3.8, all pre-reqs finished, and no CNA license. I think my points were around 56-58 at the two schools. The main thing if you're in similar shoes is to really focus on your interview/essay, let your life experiences and passion shine through. Chris, it's nice to hear updates on you! I just wanted to add that how you described your experience thus far (clinicals, 1st/2nd term structure, cohort love) is practically identical to how I'd describe MHCC. I can't speak for PCC or CCC, but I can see our programs are identical and that MHCC has successfully implemented the OCNE program. It's nice to see that.

Hey, I applied two years in a row, was waitlisted and then accepted each year at MHCC, but I turned down the 1st year in order to take a year off and work to pay off debt so I wouldn't have to work during nursing school. Here are my stats: 3.6 cumulative, 3.85 pre-reqs only (which OCNE programs count towards points), all pre-req classes finished, no cna license or other experience that would add points to my application. After talking to other classmates, many of them were in similar positions as me as well. Now, I will also say that those of us with the lower GPAs also learned that none of got invited to even an interview at PCC. To get into PCC you will need a very high GPA and probably CNA experience. For other OCNE schools, I think more than anything, it is important to focus on your interview. I know there were people who were SUPER intimidating (made me feel out of my league), boasting about their perfect grades and heaps of CNA experience before the interview, but did NOT get into MHCC based on the results of the interview. Go to your interview and just be REAL. Life experience is incredibly important to them as this is adult education. It's so different from A&P and the rest of the pre reqs. It's not about being perfect, it's about being able to think critically and abstractly, to apply scientifically based knowledge into a dynamic range of circumstances. If you can display maturity and critical thinking skills, you'll be golden, don't stress it. That said, good luck to you. It wasn't too long ago I was in your shoes, and now looking back it seems a world away! We are now finished with our 1st term, and have learned so much and experienced so much between class and clinicals; and I'm lucky to be a part of the best cohort ever!

@toekneejo I do not know what statistical rates you are referring to (whether say, occupational mortality or disease), I was referring to those gathered by the WHO (which I stated in my post), and I was also referring to those of developed nations... most central/south american and asian countries are not considered developed. The rate I pointed out specifically was infant mortality, and the US ranked at 40th the last I checked, which was below every developed nation. If you want to narrow your search, look up those that would be considered healthcare preventable.

You are assuming that constitutional rights are equivalent to basic human rights, when that is not necessarily true. You are merely claiming that healthcare is not a constitutional right by claiming it's not in the constitution. The constitution does not include every human being, and is therefore not a basis for determining what are basic human rights. Basic Human Rights are those that apply to everyone simply for being a human, regardless of where they are in the world, nationally or internationally. For example, the "Right to Life" is a basic human right. If you want to argue if healthcare is a basic human right, you need to be able to discern if it is encompassed in one's right to life. I think it should be, and nearly all respected international courts and organizations would agree with this, including the ICN. Take for example an American who is abroad and denied life saving healthcare. Such actions have come up in international courts and are seen as a violation of the "Right to Life." We (the US and many other countries as well) provide ER in order to fulfill the "Right to Life" as well. Now, you could claim that health promotion is not the same as life promotion, but that would be your prerogative. Imo, not promoting health is along the lines of risking someone's life. So I would agree with the others who say healthcare coincides with the Right to Life. To furthermore show how providing healthcare promotes life, simply look at the mortality statistics on WHO of countries that provide healthcare vs those that don't. The US is the only developed nation that doesn't provide healthcare and the US also has some of the highest mortality rates, most of which are preventable via access to healthcare (such as infant mortality).

I used to manage an Italian Coffee shop, and as much as I love it, the acidity in coffee gives me heartburn. So now I just take Guarana supplements as needed:)

I don't think it matters what people think of your appearance. In fact, if I'm at the hospital as a pt, I'm probably at my own worst; and I'd rather have McNormal than McDreamy taking care of me any day! The only thing I'd expect in any person in a medical profession apart from their competency at what they do is cleanliness and kindness. I think you need a bit more confidence in yourself, I think people will love the crap out of you when you are nurse because you will be good at what you do, you will understand them, and you'll be just as good at getting everyone and everything to work together and make the environment more enjoyable. I'd much rather work with or be treated by someone like you than someone lacking personality but blessed with superficial beauty.

Nurse Maru, Jadelpn's suggestion is one that takes into account the environment at the least risk to the girl. It is one that will provide an open door for the girl where she may not have one, in which she has the opportunity to develop independence and pursue possibilities in the future. It may be morally wrong to you what is going on, but you do not know the full details of the situation, and your morals are only applicable to you, as it's your belief system. A lot of these "off the grid" types have created their own culture in a sense, and we need to be culturally sensitive to that. What if they are Amish? Amish are off the grid, strongly religious, patriarchal in structure, and value apprenticeship over formal education; would you say their way of living is immoral? I wouldn't; we cannot force our own moral beliefs on others. I would also suggest you read "The Spirit Catches You and You Fall Down" by Ann Fademan if you haven't. It's a great read.

Not sure what you are basing your judgment here off of, but that's certainly not true for the majority of those I know who was home-schooled, and I know quite a few people from home-schooled backgrounds. In fact, the only person of my friends I know who had particular trouble when she went to college after HS was one who went to an equally conservative and strict college (Pensacola). I wouldn't blame her home schooling either, but more so the constant legalism she was under. Other than her, everyone (easily 20) I've known to be home schooled and/or off the grid has been very successful since. Love this suggestion

Your friend seems to know very little about nursing as a career if he's asking why they need to go to school. If he's too stubborn to help his daughter seek out a nursing school when the time comes, and it's a family dynamic where the daughter still submits to her father as an adult; then perhaps a good suggestion would be midwifery training. The majority of the schooling, as far as I've seen from friends who are certified midwives in OR, is apprenticeship. I've a good and incredibly talented friend who is a certified midwife and is working in Kenya. She's not a missionary; but there is plenty of opportunity everywhere, as midwives are far more valued and in demand in countries outside of the US. Maybe it would help pointing out that a huge part of nursing school IS technically apprenticeship, since it requires clinicals?

Yes, I do know what it's like, don't judge me according to your own personal conflictions. Don't patronize me. I deleted my side comment questioning your moral development, but I really find it relevant. As human beings, we have a moral obligation to help protect each other for the common good of all. As a nurse, this is magnified. You are not just a nurse at the hospital, if something happens in public, if someone's life is threatened, you help them. You can't just leave it at work. I seriously think you would benefit from reflecting on Kohlberg's work. You may not be tax payer payed, but unless you are hired by a wealthy individual to provide care solely to them, you serve the public. Healthcare is privatized in the US, but that doesn't mean that you are not serving the public. And all jobs are deal with it or leave it. You obviously know what is required of you in advance, if you are unwilling to accept the requirements, then you need to either negotiate what is required of you or find another job. Hospitals in natural disaster areas work alongside both state and national disaster responses organizations. Yes, they can require you to stay. No you are not obligated to, but they can replace you with someone who will. And as Asystole RN pointed out, abandoning your duty if you accept working for this hospital could also land you in front of the Board. I believe that sufficiently answers your original question.

I think you sound incredibly entitled and are missing the point of what it means to be a nurse. To think of it as just a job is to slap in the face to every nurse who's sacrificed their time and life to take care of others who need them, and this is a situation where you are desperately needed. "There will be no extra pay, no bonus, just regular pay and time and 1/2 when you're in over time. Expected to sleep in hospital, in semi-pvt room WITH ANOTHER CO-WORKER!" - So??? You want some sort of reward for what you are required to do? What entitles you to it more than anyone else? If you're unhappy with this requirement, by all means, leave. If you're concerned about safety, then ask those requiring you to stay about safety procedures and reinforcement. I'm sure they've taken care of the things you worry about ahead of time. And good Lord, oh no, You might be required to SHARE A ROOM WITH A COWORKER?!?!??!?!? What did you expect??? The Ritz??? Either get over yourself, or move somewhere else. I haven't worked as a nurse during a natural disaster, but I did work during one at a night audit at a hotel. I was the only person that actually lived in the area apart from the manager, and was required to stay with the guests, who were stranded at our hotel for nearly a week w/out anywhere to go or any way home. My job required me to stay, did I plan for this in advance when I was hired? No. Did I complain about it? No. Was I scared like everyone else? Yes, but I didn't let that have an affect on my ability to take care of a bunch of freaked out guests who couldn't contact their families. Your hospital should have an emergency response plan (sounds like they do since you know what's required of you), that works in direct line with your State Emergency System as well as the National Incident Management System in regards to what is required from the hospital. So, yes, in the even of a natural disaster, they can require you to stay. But remember, you're never forced, you just may need to find work somewhere else.

Lilpoka: I got my shots at the co health dept, and was scheduled to get my titers, but they said they were no longer giving them when I showed up. Super bummed! So now I have to look somewhere else.