Little Flower

Thank you. I did see the movie a couple of times and it distressed me so much I suppose I just blocked out Nurse Rachett. Is there a name for what I did? :chuckle Now I will be forced to rent the thing and watch it again just so I can ID good ole Nurse Rachett. :chuckle

Please enlighten me. I have seen references to Nurse Rachett as being some kind of evil torturer. Sorry I am so late to make this discovery so please be patient with me. Thanks.

It used to be about your qualifications but now it is foremost how you fit their team. Each personality test is geared to produce the results of the type of team player they are looking for. You have to pass the personality test before anything else.....then they consider your credentials. Most places you apply for a job now.....even in banks I have noticed. They have the little computer there and you have to sit there and do the little test thing first. Employers are doing a psych evaluation on you FIRST....plus, there are literally hundreds of people applying for a measely one position....and no telling how many more are applying online only to find out they still have to come to the lobby of some building and unceremoniously sit out in the middle of the room somewhere and take the little test. In the good OLD days and I do mean OLD days. There might be a couple or several vying for a position. Today there could be hundreds or more.....even for a little pissy job, a no-account job, a meaningless job, etc. Most all candidates get flushed down the proverbial toilet up front because they don't fit the psych profile they are looking for. Don't you feel like a worthless, numberless ant in an ant hill or grain of sand on the beach when applying for a job? I do. Your chance of getting the job you want or any job are more and more minisicule....shrinking with every year that goes by. Then add to that all the disqualifiying factors like your age, your age and your age.,,,,then your ethnicity, your ethnicity and your ethnicity......along with ANY TIME YOU HAVE EVER FILED A CLAIM FOR WORK COMP (no matter if you won or not) OR HAD A BACK INJURY. The disqualifying factors just keep growing. Once you realize that you are not an individual any more looking for a job but simply a unit of production (where the most perfect, young and unspoiled units are valued - that require less money and are not fixed/rigid in their already trained mind-set) then you will realize how remote your chances are of getting not only the job you want but any job. Employers say they don't discriminate due to age, disability, yadda, yadda, yadda but they do....they just found a way to hide it and a different way to by-pass it. It is that little personality test. Of course there still remains one factor that will get you a job and that is: Its not what you know but WHO you know. Good luck in your searches.

These funky little tests are also used as "deal breakers" when the HR person can't decide which person to give the wonderful employment deal to. Say 2 people come with exact qualifications and everything else is the same, i.e., age, height, weight, well, you know what I mean. They will use these little tests to decide. It is nothing but a "test" to see how well the person can "play a game and give them the response they want". It is all part of a "package" ....you are a "package" or "packet of information/data". This neat little "package" is then converted to a "file". When you screw up they refer back to the "package/file" to render appropriate discipline...........like "see, you were such a good employee before but something has now HAPPENED to you". On the other hand when you take a personality test up front before submitting an application they are not looking at you for your qualifications at all but simply how well you can "play the game" and that includes LIE (but of course that means ...lie for them to protect them, to side with them, to deny for them, to cover-up for them). It is all part of the "game". It is all part of being a "team-player". Haven't you heard those words before. Have you ever wondered what that really meant? Well, you have to have a certain level of intelligence to be able to first think of the correct answer and then second to go above that and think of what they "want" you to say to safisfy the "game". AND, you have to customize ALL of your answers based on what type of job you are going in for, considering the mind set of those that are employed there and the types of personalities you have encountered along the way that match those jobs. What a twisted world we live in now. Newspeak on words .....right is left and yes is no. Qualities like conscience, ethics, prinicples, even education and such are on the back burner to quick deceit. Of course, the answer to that statement is: Oh, we NEVER lie here. That is frowned upon. Truth is that is what is meant by the "best candidate for the job = the best liar". The new "key-words" here are adaptation and flexibility. Can you wing-it? Can you fit into/move into other spots fluidly? Can you please by saying and DOING what they want? Personality tests are like try-outs for the major leagues. You don't have to have good academic grades to make the team. You just have to be a team-player, know how to throw the ball, when to hold and when to run, how to sweat at the appropriate time and when to smile for the camera. Psych 103 Think about it. Just my 2 cents.

Unfortunately a lot of PCP's are getting out of their practice incrimentally. They see patients in their office but "farm-out" or job-shop aspects of their practice to other institutions...the ER's being one such part. Instead of closing their practice they simply turn their practice into a type of outpatient daytime clinic and refer all of their emergency situations straight over to a hospital ER. They turn there practice into a "walk-in clinic" but by appointment. I am afraid that some nurses being cloistered within their own work environments for a long time may not be aware of how functionally different private practice is becoming out there in the real world. The private practice docs want to transfer some of their liability over to the hospital.The hosptials don't care because they don't own the emergency rooms (which are a contract service). My most recent PCP sent out letters to all of his patients that he was closing his private practice. He was going to teach instead. The patients are becoming ping-pong balls for any medical service with a mit/paddle. Of course not to be totally one-sided here.......but patients are becoming more and more strange as society becomes more unstable overall. However, Every person with a medical degree of some kind has an opinion. All these people have ego's, needs and desires Some of these people have power lust....some are good and some are downright evil. Their opinion doesn't matter one ioda....only facts counts. I will site this example and then leave you to digest what I have said. Another neighbor here was taken out of his apartment by the fire rescue and put in am ambulance by the EMT's. Their last comments before they closed the door and drove off with him were....he just needs a little attention and he will be alright. The man ended up diagnosed with end-stage ALS......and he was dead in less than two months. Moral of the story is this: If you have become jaded in your profession take time out until you can get your humanity back and if you never do, never set foot in a critical care evaluation center again. It would be for the good of all and the good of society at large. Go sell cars or something where you can mock the stupid customers until the cows come home. I speak as someone who has had nurses training, worked with physicians in private practice and hospital settings and know the inside jokes. When you lose your humanity and patience you have lost your soul.

In all fairness to truth and to answer your question... I agree with you on this statement. I thought it extremely odd that this wasn't done. Sometimes I just wonder in awe at the whole thing....especially after the next morning when her doc called her at home and blasted her off about how medically nescessary it was for her to go to the ER...that's why he sent her there. ER's are run differently today then in the past is all I can tell you and it seems that there is MORE lack of proper communication between the ER and the private docs. JMHO. As to the other part of my post I think seizure is good enough to be angry about an ER....especially when nothing was done at all which consequently caused a second seizure. When I say nothing was done I mean nothing to evaluate. Why you ask? ....because of the next statement. However, the drug panel was all 100% clean as was the social history. My beef with ER's is that everybody going there is drug-seeking. You have to prove your innocence up front first on that degree. Today it is a given that all patients are drug seeking if they go to the ER. Some docs make the ER's where they work hell holes of negativism and distrust of patients. True there are many who do go there seeking drugs (see thread about the funniest things that happen in the ER...all 90 something pages) but what about all the rest of the patients? Attitude towards the patient is what sets the tone of either a good ER or not so good one. Attitude is everything. As to "what type of emergent situation would bring you to the ER so as not to be embarrassed as another non-emergent presentation"....the average person without medical education has no way of knowing or defining this. Even educated people sometimes get this skewed. Disgust, indifference and bad attitude from the ER staff then sets the tone for their fear experience conditioning. Not everyone has an insurance company with an oncall nurse line to pre-evaluate for the patient. Sometimes things happen to patients out in the field whereby they are delivered to ER's by ambulance without even wanting to go there in the first place......and all they are thinking about is how fast they can get out of there. When on the other hand you arrive at an ER with a truly emergent situation only to have it mis-diagnosed and dismissed out of hand.....now THAT is one situation that could fall into the stated category but it certainly isn't the patients fault. You must remember there are many variables at play in a presentation. Automatic assumption is wrong and dangerous. It is a value judgement first and logical confirmation somewhere down on the list at maybe 9th out of 10. Bias IS contagous. Temperance from the staff is paramount to patient relations. When an ER nurse or doctor loses there ability to maintain temperance and collar their personal feelings or disgust for the very people that allow for the payment of their income and are their source from which their livelihood is derived...then it is time to leave emergency medicine and take a sabbatical. Or of course, you can do what lots of ER docs do when they make mistakes and just transfer to another state. Not all ER's are the same. Some in big cities see more drug-seeking patients. Some in more rural old time communities see less. Ruling out drug-seeking behavior seems to be the gold standard of care first now which doesn't say much for our present society. But, A person's ability to judge their own situation as to whether or not it is emergent or not should not be contingent upon them not being made the laughing stock or blunt of the jokes in anybody's ER. What happened to professionalism? JMHO

The last time I was in the ER was also a nightmare of major proportions. I wish to g-d I had not gone to that hospital. ER's are contract services operating under different rules. If they screw up they become invisible and that is all I am going to say about that. Something that worries me is this: My PCP doesn't go to the hospital. He refers his patients out to specialists for particular needs of tx. If however you have an emergency he tells you to go to the ER. That scares me very much. I like my PCP...he is a jewel so changing docs hasn't even entered my mind. I would most likely die from lack of treatment due to fear I acquired from the last trip to one. I have to ask of the rest of you (not to those who are only embarrassed). There seems to be a general consensus about not wanting to go to the ER. That certainly doesn't say much for the idea of emergency care, now does it? Two weeks ago I took my neighbor to the ER. Her doctor told her to go. The way she was treated there by an arrogant, narcissistic, ego-maniac, god complex doctor brought her to tears and she left the ER. She walked to a pharmacy nearly a mile away and called me to come get her. She hadn't had any food all day and was in a great deal of pain. She was almost disoriented. She subsequently had gallbladder surgery. I have lost respect for ER's due to horror stories I hear repeated from many sources about how people are treated while there. It seems that in general ER docs have acquired a hostile/aggressive position towards patients. Yes, I understand that some of this is job related actually as they become hardened to life and jaded in their emotional expression or lack there of but coming from the patients point of view it is reflected as hostility and indifference. The majority have lost their ear for listening and forsaken their oath of "do no harm" Just my observations/experience. On the flip side I am sure there are still many excellent ER docs out there providing great care. Too bad they are now cast in the shadow of those that do the harm. When patients fear doctor in the ER and doctors succumb to the god complex we are all at risk....if nothing else but from fear. When I was a young adult (back in the good old days) ...your doctor called the ER and gave orders that were then acted on and followed. Now it seems that once you get to the ER they want to do everything all over again like you just walked right in off the street withOUT any directives. There is something very wrong going on in ER today. It may be something as simple as corporations, schedules, management, contracts and of course money and insurance or lack there of. JMHO which is subject to revision based on any new information which may be obtained.

All the posters here have for the most part gotten what they asked for from the ER docs and primaries. However, I know of a person who tried this with his primary and received a certified letter in the mail telling him that his doc would no longer attend him. He found another primary and true to his nature and background found he needed to instruct again only to receive a second cerified letter. Apparently the two docs communicated with each other...hence the second letter....or their staff/office managers did. Docs are no different from lawyers in this regard. They will tell you they cannot attend you anymore but you will play heck finding someone who will after that as the next one will call the first one and get the low-down. It is one thing to ask for certain kinds of treatment for another person who you are escorting/accompanying but when it comes to asking for yourself the playing field becomes a little tricky....especially if you are asking for any kind of med for pain. The first suspicion pretty automatic and is that you are drug-seeking....then immediately discounted. anyway............ This was the experience of my friend and a true story. This was just FYI

There is nothing new under the sun.... This is the way the old timers used to do it. My mom used to do this all the time when I was a little and we were out shopping. The public toilets didn't have seat liners back then and my mom was very particular about sitting down on them.........so, she taught me how to do this by just pulling your clothes over to the side.....even drip dry if necessary. Sure beats getting bugs from some dirty potty. Makes perfect sense to me and it is easier than you might think. It isn't a manly pee ......it is a safety and health pee. Try it. :)

:rotfl: :rotfl: Isn't that the truth!!! It is a male thing!!! I too had a lumpectomy on the left breast but not the right one. I have a LOT of scar tissue. When I have to get my breast squashed in a mammo machine ...the right one hurts but I want to scream with the left one being squashed and I cry.I also curse the inventor of this barbaric female torture machine! :chuckle Pain is a deterent...a type of aversion conditioning preventing women from even wanting to go get their annual check-ups. Somebody needs to do something about this. sorry about the drift.

BTW.....I forgot to mention you will also have to buy a new pair of boxing gloves cause there will be a lot of infighting between the nurses for the use of this little goody. :)

Well, I just wrote a whole little paragraph here in reply but musta hit something wrong. When I hit the back button eveyrthing I wrote was gone. I know I can't repeat verbatim everything I wrote before so just phooey. Anyway....the article said: arthritic joints, wound injury, burns, sore throats, laryngitis, etc. and said they had good results from using the device. Now all you have to do to get one is to call somebody and have them come in and give a demo of the device...convince the floor nurse/charge nurse/staffing coordinator/unit clerk/department head-professor/hospital services/acquisitions/corportate CEO of the hospital ...then convince somebody in the budget department to requisition one for you because you really need one and you can have it. :rotfl: :) No easy feat, huh? Sorry....I have a tad bit dry humor. Please don't hate me for it. :)

Here is some good news I thought I would share with you all. I found it Local6.com Orlando Florida. NASA has a healing light that can be used for pain or wounds. The device is FDA approved. Please check out the following link. It sells for about $900.00 http://www.local6.com/health/4069815/detail.html

nerdse Yelling at someone like many doctors do both to their patients and their nurses is as good a remedy for pain as any, didn't ya know? Yelling makes the pain go away but it will also give a nurse a bad back. All those courses of "it's your fault you have a bad back" is to deflect the fault from the perp to you and or your patient. So will what I call sweet and sour behavior/interaction (especially if you don't see it coming or after awhile even if you know it is coming (conditioning)). Isn't conversion an interesting topic? I shoulda been a psych nurse. Sorry about getting off topic. :)

As it relates to pain and huge pills and meds that make you vomit, etc....some of what I say you won't like because some of you have only the knowledge of your nurses training and nothing beyond while some of you have the knowledge of the ages and other studies, but, like it or not it is truth, just the kind you may not want to hear. BTW (there still is some question that we didn't really put a human being on the moon.) Suffice it to say though that with the level of technology we have today in all fields/areas of science/military applications nothing is for the comfort and pain reduction of patients/people/nurses that isn't also further detrimental to their over-all health and punitive to them legally.: 1. The designers of the meds are large people that have big throats and can swallow a log. 2. The meds cost too much to make smaller and then give the patient two of them instead of one. 3. The pharmaceutical company employs a large number of sadists/machocists. 4. The evil inherent in this world requires the negative energy put out into the ether from pain and suffering. 5. Doctors don't have to see or put up with the results and they are not and never have been impressed with anything the nurses have to go through in dealing with patients. 6. It is all a macab design in cruelity. 7. It is intentionally meant to be barbaric because we don't have barbaric wars in the USA to release all that male testosterone. I have always wondered over and over again why simple pain relief for patients cannot be obtained without everybody getting in a tizzy about addicting the patients and the meds being so dangerous. There is just no excuse now for this in this high-tech society we live in....just no excuse at all. Going to the hospital is a very traumatic experience for the patient and especially the human body. Repair may take place there but healing takes places at home where the body can recover from the shock of the treatments. Some doctors are very indifferent to their patients. I am sure you have seen/noticed this god complex....after all it isn't them laying there helpless and at the total mercy of their hospital god. The patient has no control or say over what is done to them while in the hospital and they become very defensive. Nobody really tells them what is going to be done to them until it is done and pray that they don't expire from the trial. Some of what I wrote you may find funny....some of it I wrote to be funny but there is also an ounce of truth, a nugget here and there. Depending on your age and experience you will discern the difference. As to what you can do about it all........not a darn thing. Just do your job with all the compassion you can and know then that your heart and conscience is clean when you go home at the end of the shift. Indifference, arrogance, silence and hostility are not comforting nor healing arts. Talk to your patients BEFORE you do what you do and let them HELP you do what you need to do or have the right to REFUSE. It is their body. They ARE paying customers/comsumers of the service being provided. I don't mean this to sound harsh. Nurses are very abused in the system. Lots of them end their careers totally wasted and used up like my beloved aunt did. Don't stay too long if you feel this coming to you. Life has other opportunities and ways to help people. NEVER trade your soul for a hardened heart. And now I will bow out of this discussion and hope you don't hit me! :)