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Well it's been a while. So here is an update of what has happen with me since Aug 2014, it is going to be long. I finally tossed in the towel with both IPN and the BON around Aug/Sept 2014. I had 2 different medical doctor's diagnosis for my condition (which I would later find out was a symptom for my real condition) and IPN's new MRO did not and would not except either diagnosis or the plan of treatment. So I said screw it and walked. It wasn't easy dropping what I loved to do, but for me it was the only choice "I" had left. I was getting so depressed and on the brink of ending everything over not being able to please the unpleasable it wasn't no longer fare to anyone in my life. I wasn't working nor did I want to at this point. Heck I wasn't even leaving my home. I had become a complete shut in. Everything in my life was suffering, my marriage, my family, my friend and my health. Finally my husband was tired of basically watch me slowly dying in front of him we had a major heart to heart, the choice was made and I left IPN and the BON. The 1st couple of months was extremely hard for me. I was afraid to still go out, I was afraid to basically do anything as I always felt like someone or something was watching me. Well around the 3 month mark after I had just returned from a cruise (which was by no means an easy task for me, but a step for me to put all this mess behind me). I was blessed by the mail fairy's with a lovely package from IPN and the BON. Seems as I was working again. Magically I am able to be in 2 or 3 places at once (again I might add), but what makes this funny as all get out is that I have NEVER lived nor been to the area where I am now being accused of working. What's even more off the wall hilarious is when I called this "Hospital" they had no clue who I was. I explained everything in detail to the hospital and they were shocked as they have no record of me ever working for them or even applying for a job with them. They asked for IPN and the BON's contact numbers that I had. They told me they would call IPN and the BON and explain that there must be a misunderstanding as they have never heard of me. I gave everyone about 2 weeks and I called. Seems no one at either IPN or the BON cares about the facts, truth or anything. Both IPN and the BON stated that the hospital had called and they both had notations from the hospital, but I was being found guilty (Ok, not the words either IPN or the BON used, but we all know the truth) as charged and both IPN and the BON. Now IPN and/or the BON are scheduling for my license to be places on an Emergency Suspension, they are setting up appointments for evaluations and all that jazz. I really could care a less as I told them, as I want nothing to do with being a nurse and that I had already surrendered by license. I contacted my attorney who is laughing at all of this. He knows I haven't been working and what I have been up too. He shoots off a letter to IPN and the BON. He gets no reply. Neither of us are shocked of the no reply. Well time goes on and we hear nothing about this mess. My attorney and myself figure things are done. Fast forward 8 months. I am finally opening back up. Getting out, going places and living for myself, my husband and family. I honestly haven't thought about being a nurse, IPN or the BON for a year now. I am finally at peace with putting it behind me and moving on to something new. Well that didn't last long. As one day I am busy doing things inside and outside of the house this day. There is a random car that pulls up to my driveway. Seems official as this gentleman steps out of the car with a clipboard and a envelope. This gentleman calls for me by name. I am kind of shocked as I have no clue what is going on. Well he explains who and where he is from. I am like are you flippen kidding me. Basically the same BS as before. I am working when I shouldn't be, I am not going to my support group meeting and I am in violation of being kicked out of the program. I kindly ask him to get off my property. Which he finally does after we exchange some words. (I know not the mature thing to do, but seriously can anyone do a bit of fact finding before acting?) I contacted my attorney about all of this. He wasn't very happy as IPN and the BON are fully aware I have an attorney. Well my attorney sent them another letter. This time telling them to stop harassing me by mail or phone. I ended up getting a hand more letters and phone calls. Most of the mail went into the circular file and the phone calls went unanswered. Things seem to have finally dried up at this point, which is great for me. The only reason I type this is all due to an email notification I got because of the post from this thread. I am now 2.5 months shy of my 2nd year of walking away from everything. Since my last contact with IPN and/or the BON. I have opened up more. I am getting out. I have been to places on this planet I never thought I would ever go. I am finally living and I haven't been this darn happy in a long time. There has been so many positive things for me (Physically, Mentally, Emotionally and Spiritually). About 3 months ago I found out that the medical diagnosis I had was just a symptom, an ugly slip cover for what was really wrong. 3 months ago the hidden beast showed it's ugly side and I almost died from it. It took a 4 days in ICU and a complete stranger (a new doctor) to finally say, hey I honestly think this is what has been causing your issues all these years. 2 test's later and we have a proper diagnosis (the symptoms my medical condition can cause will alway cause me to pop a positive ETOH test if my symptoms are not in check). I am now on the right medical track with the correct medical diagnosis. I will have to live with my diagnosis for the rest of my life, but as long as I can keep it in check I am fine. As of today, I have never received an apology from IPN or the BON over anything, the false accusations, the lies, the bullying, the name calling, the false imprisonment, the slander or anything. I honestly am not bothered by this. I am finally at peace with myself and everything that has happen. I have learned that holding on to all this negativity was not doing me one bit of good. It was slowly killing me. It was causing me to doubt myself, my real self. I know walking away isn't the answer for everyone. But if you can do it, do it. I was blessed enough that I could close that door and never have to open it up again. Remember, be strong and don't let anyone tear you down.

Not sure what state you are in, but in Florida we have legal POA paperwork. Questions: Do you have paperwork making you her legal POA? If so, was this paperwork turned into the hospital when your mom was admitted? Was the MD aware of a POA and did the MD give you the ok to view her medical records? If the answer to any of the above it NO, then you could be in violation. Sorry. Again, not knowin your state, but I know in Florida it is strict. A couple of years ago my parent was in the hospital on a vent, in the same hospital I am a employee in. Knowing I am my parent POA, I knew what I needed to do and how I go about doing it. My parent MD had been keeping me up to date on my parents health care. The MD was the one who asked for the POA paperwork. Once I brought the paperwork in, then the MD went over everything in the chart. Never once was I allowed to be alone with the chart nor did I ever ask. It is very hard not to cross those lines of HIPAA when you are in the medical field. Sometimes even harder when you work in the same hospital as the one your loved one is admitted in. I know while my parent was in the hospital before my POA was activated when I would go visit. The nurses, PA's and some MD would honestly give me more information on my parents care/condition then they really should have. Lesson should be learned. Never, ever do anything with your POA until asked and make sure you always have someone with you.

I view it as someone who doesn't truely like their employement and wants to be fired for "Destruction of Property". Yes, I have seen someone for a stunt basically like this. Sorry this is happening.

Wow, your manager had to call you and remind you to renew your license because HR called her about it. Then you decided to go online and renew at that time. That right there shows you have some poor decision making skills. Honestly you should thank your lucky stars you have a manager who holds your hand and walks you down the hall. Stop blaming HR. There are many checks and balances a company has to go through when a licensed employee renews. Do you know that most 3rd party company run back ground checks on many licensed employees before letting HR know all is good to go. Why is that, because people LIE. So 24-48 hours isn't enough time for any complete back ground check. Just because the state requires the time up until midnight, doesn't mean your employer does. You might want to read you employers P&P's a little more than assuming they screwed up.

Nope. Not one bit, honestly. I am more like *** at this point and so over it all. I went into IPN with years of documentation from my Specialist over my condition. IPN wrote this into my contract. Everything has been totally ok with IPN and the previous MRO. They all accepted my Speicalist DX/Reasoning for my condition. Only one time can I remember that there was an issue and it was when my caseworker went on a vacation. The stand in caseworker didn't know anything about me or my situation and did the whole. "You have to refrain from working & go have an evaluation". I just spoke with the person who is in charge of the UDS and they help clear everything up. I was out of work for a day. Not a biggie. Now this NEW MRO comes along and he just walk into IPN and flips over the apple cart. Like WTH. I am so over pompous arrogant people right now. I do totally understand why some have to be like that. But when you have documentation that goes back 20+ years and it has always been ok and accepted. Who is this MRO to tell me "It is up to my discretion, if I want to accept it or not". Seriously? He is going to tell my specialist he has no clue what he is talking about. I so would love to be a fly on that wall that day. Anyways, I honestly and not keeping my fingers crossed for anything positive right now. It is going to be what this new MRO wants it to be and there is not much I can really do about it. Do I think he'll be ok with all the documentation that IPN has been given over time. Nope not at all. Why, because he is a control freak. One of the nurse's in my group who has been on BP medication for years. She is now being board referred. Why, because according to this MRO, a BP medication will not cause or act as a diuretic. This nurse has had no issues with IPN and she was 8 months away from the end. So, after seeing and hearing this I have no faith right now. And you know what. I am ok with it. SP

JustBeachyNurse nailed it.

Has anyone else been having issue's with their new MRO. I have a biological issue that IPN has been given documentation on since I started in the program back in 2010, Everything has been 100% ok. That is until this new MRO came into the picture. IPN now has requested more documentation for my issue from my Specialist per this new MRO's request. Then IPN tell's me that if this new MRO does not accept my specialist DX/Reasoning behind my issue that I will have to go see an addictionologist and have an evaluation completed. I am like RUFKM (just think about it). This MRO who is a general MD in their area moonlighting is going to over rule a specialist DX/Reasoning for something they have been following me for, for over 20 years now. I know I am not the only one having these issue's. There are 5 other nurse's within my support group who have stated issue's just within the past month. Thanks for reading SP

Hello gatornurse06ipn, I can try to help with some of your questions/concerns. Are you currently working in the healthcare field? When you received your RX for the Ultram did you contact your casework ASAP? Yes, your doctor will have some paperwork to fill out in order for you to take the Ultram while you are in the program. If that paperwork has been filled out and your caseworker is aware then you should be ok. If you are working in the healthcare field, you might be asked to refrain from working while you are taking this medication and you can pass a UDS. Also, I am not sure what UDS you have been taking, but I can tell you the UDS we get with IPN. The Ultram will show if it is in your system and pop you for a positive. I have witnessed it one time too many. Nurse's with the attitude "Oh it's just Ultram", doesn't matter. Anyways, DO NOT GET BUSTED WITH A POSITIVE UDS & THEY DO NOT HAVE THE PAPERWORK FOR IT. If you pop a positive and they do not have your paperwork. It is considered being noncompliant and you will end up having to go for another evaluation. There was a nurse in my support group who was taking Ultram and popped a positive and she has been referred to the BON. Don't take the chance. As for early release. Nope. They treat us like prisoners, but it's not jail. We don't get time off for good behavior. As for sitting for your boards. That is going to be a question you are going to have to talk with your caseworker about and the BON. I have seen a handful of LPN's who crossed over to RN's while in the program. Each one of them had to go in front of the BON and get permission. I have also seen a couple of nurse's go forward to get their ARNP and they had to go in front of the BON for that also. The one nurse who had graduated from IPN did not have to go in front of the BON. Just the ones who were currently in the program. I hope this bit of information helps. Send me a message if you have more questions. I am located in Southern Florida. Best of Wishes. SP

No I don't. Sorry. I call it like I see it. I get so tired of the wah wah's from people when they screw up and them spending way more time blaming everyone else instead of just maning up and dealing with it. Also, yeah her manager might have had all the information stating her license was good to go, but her manager is not HR. Pretty sure the HR department has their own check and balances in places, since that is what they get paid to do.

You waited until the last minute to renew and now you are upset because this happened? Seriously? You know basically 2 years in advance of when you need to renew. It's not like it jumped out from the shadows on the 29th. Sorry, suck it up and learn to stop putting important things off until the last minute. Btw: HR's mistake didn't hurt your paycheck. You did.

Jumper cables and strong bi-ceps. In all seriously, you do not need a kit. That is what the EMT's get paid for.

Texting you to come in. Reguardless if you're on vacation or not. Am I the only one who find that 100% unprofessional. I never give my employer my cell number. I give them my land line and thats it.

I am sorry but I am so totally confused with your statement. You were prescribed a narcotic for the flu, your in a recovery program for narcotics and you got the narcotic prescription filled, but forgot to report it. Questions: If you have "Never" failed a UDS, then how did your program find out. Why would you accept a prescription for a narcotic, knowing you have a past history of addiction? Now that you accepted the narcotic, did it ever cross you mind before you swallowed it that you seriously need to call you caseworker? Sorry if I come across sounding judgemental. I am honestly just at a loss when I see and hear nurse's saying just what you said.

Are you serious? There are easly 5 nurses with in my nurse support group who all failed pre-employement sceeens that got reported to the BON and were referred over to our states Impaired Nurse Program. So where ever or whom ever told you this totally has their information completly incorrect.

Just a little FYI. Some recovery programs frown on the use of these check in companies. I know when I check in my IPS address and/or phone number is recorded and logged. They do have the power to block IPS/Numbers from their system. But in all honest. Do you really want to risk being held non complaint due to a missed check in because something happened with the company and they missed your check in?