Lulu34

it varies from uni to uni how much extra academic work you do between degree and diploma.... however the practical content is the same.... no matter how many placements you do.... it comes down to hours... you have to do 50% theory and 50% practice.... how your uni splits it up its up to them and it can be different for both the degree and diploma. nurses have only been getting diplomas since about 1992 before that teh majority were certificte level bar a few expectiosn who did nursiong degrees so it wasnt uncommon to go all the way to G grade with neither dip or deg... however now there is more competition but on qualifying it wont make a diffirence on what job you get as the minimum is still a dip. it will make more difference as you progress up the career ladder... getting into management, research and education would all benefit from degrees... saying that though they may be degrees specific to your future role eg District nursing or health visiting. in england the financial implications i think put off the majority of people from doing the degree... in scotland the majority of courses are combined so most dip and deg students study together and since doing thsi it was found that the majority of students given this choice choose to do the degree... (getting teh full bursary as they do in scotland)... i think if the same finances were offered in england it would be the same case.

According to the NT 90% of people will get a pay increase on A4C and over 20% get a £2000 increase. Have a look at this poster showing the bands where some nurses will be under the new scheme. According to this newly qualified staff nurses will be on £18114 which is an increase of £1054.

Hiya I have just completed my adult nurse training and about to start midwifery in a couple of weeks. At our uni there are quite a number of places available but unfortunately wont take overseas student on to do it. We also dont get paid like the shortned course students do in England so have to rely on a bursary. in certain areas it is easier to get a job in midwifery as there are lots of shortages but other places you get lots of people fighting for just 1 or 2 jobs.

although in the public sector most people only get 4 or 5 eeks they also get around 8 to 10 days public holiday son top which works out roughly the same as nurses. we just have the added advantage of choosing when to take these holidays... usually

Well done Catherine Im sure it will go well and the 2 years will fly in in no time. enjoy your course

Good luck Catherine hope it goes well. :)

it was only cos i wrote an essay on infection control a few months ago i had it in my favourites file :)

what level of study is it at this is all the degree courses available through unis http://search.ucas.co.uk/cgi-bin/hsrun/search/search/StateId/CC5EEGTGmguQ3PwJccJtR8V_V5HUs-VROc/HAHTpage/search.HsKeywordSearch.run?letter=A nut the only ones refering to ethics and law are these 2 http://www.brad.ac.uk/university/ugpros/biomedical.php#3 http://www.brunel.ac.uk/courses/ug/H/BSCHCLE.shtml however if you look up law or you look up ethics you get loads of options if your looking to do it at postgraduate level their appears to be a few doing MA's http://www.shef.ac.uk/mable/applic.htm http://www.kcl.ac.uk/depsta/law/research/cmle/maprog.html this is a module of the healthcare MSc (halfwaydown page) http://www.lawandethics.sghms.ac.uk/education.htm MSc http://www.sghms.ac.uk/Courses/undergrad/mschs.htm there are probabaly other courses that have modules on ethics and law with out being a complete degree in this area.... this is probably why you have had difficulty finding information :chuckle

Hi Catherine thought you might find these useful http://www.nhscareers.nhs.uk/nhs-knowledge_base/data/4859.html http://www.aodp.org/page.asp?p=77&act=168 http://www.qaa.ac.uk/crntwork/benchmark/nhsbenchmark/DraftNHS/Operating_Department_Practice.pdf good luck with your interview

EPIC = Evidence-based Practice in Infection Control this is the site http://www.epic.tvu.ac.uk

in many places midwives only get an E grade eg most places in Scotland will only give you an E and there are limited jobs for midwives so working in the south is probably a better option. thought you might be interested in reading this... its what the NMC requires of midwives entering the register from over seas http://www.nmc-uk.org/nmc/main/Overseas/Overseas08 hope that helps with your decision.