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LPN`s are nurses they go to school from 12 months to 18 months. LPN`s have a license and require malpractice insurance and can pass meds. Medical Assistants typical go to school for 6 months to two years. MA's mainly work in doctors office, and some my work in hospitals. In my opion MA is a big waste of money. CNA's are certified nurses aid and can work in hospitals an long term care facilities( they do grunt work). PCT are similliar to CNA's but are limited to hospitals. PCT scope of practice is decide by the hospital. In 2009 I made $9/hr as a PCA/PCT. It required no schooling, outside of a 2 week course by the hospital. Then there was a 6 week preceptor program.

#17. Does the complete opposite and becomes an EMT-B instead of a CNA. Realize there are less EMT-B jobs than CNA`s. Then argues with the people at the community college because the government pays for EMT training but not CNA.

In my experience it is hard for a new CNA to get a job in a hospital. I worked as a Patient Care Tech for 6 months in a level 2 Trauma Center. I worked on a Orthopedic Unit, & I was not a cna. The things that got me hired was a work history of 11 years at one place. The second and maybe more important was that I stated I was going into a nursing program. Hospitals love SNIP(Student Nurses In Progress). I`m not sayings its not possable to get on at hospital, but the odds are stacked against you.

Its pretty much the same thing as an orderly. Except, you interact alot more with the children. You act as a role model, authority figure, friend, & a caregiver. You of course provide direct patient care. One minute you could be correcting their behavior the next you could be playing a game with them. The moment after that you could also be sucker punched. The age range goes from 5 to 17 from what I know atm. You basically do what the nurse tells you.

Okay, this is not so much CNA or even nursing related. Today, I scored a job as a Psychiatric Attendant at a Children`s Hospital . The second thing was I past my State Exam for EMT-B . Now I have to watch the mail for 6 weeks to get it . I was thinking of pursuing a CNA class, but they offer QMA trainning. In Indiana a QMA is essential a CNA that can pass Meds. I have to find out if its the same thing since its a State Facility, & they can skip the normal rules. QMA is suppose to have 1000 hrs as a CNA, before taking the trainning for QMA. Unless, you log a 1000 hrs as a Psychiatric Attendant counts.

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Take what ever job that you can. Have you tried a Temp Agency? You would be suprised how many Temp Agency have opening for a CNA. I`m not talking about home health care agency. I mean a real temp agency. I googled Temp Agency Rochester, NY & got this: Aerotek Adecco(they higher CNA locally were I live) ETS Staffing Express Employment Professionals Manpower Yoh Company Have you checked indeed.com, & Yahoo Hot Jobs.

Thanks everone for the Feedback. I`m getting the same replies on a EMT/Medic forum I frequent

Yes there is a Paramedic program to. I was thinking of taking this before going into the Paramedic. Didn`t feel I learned enough stuff in the 4 month Emt-B class.

The School I`m attending offers a Clinical Support degree program, & just finished 2010 fall semester. One day I`d like to be a Medic, & just finished my EMT-B class with an A. I loved my Clinical rotations in the ER when it was busy, & I`m not sure about driving an Ambulance. Starting to think my niche is as an ER Tech. One day would like to go onto the Medic/RN. I`m one of those people that like to get there feet wet, before they swim. Would the below degree program be a good way to do it? Its a 2 yr program & its only about 50 credits to get through it. General Education APHY 101 Anatomy and Physiology I3 APHY 102 Anatomy and Physiology II3 ENGL 111 English Composition 3 IVYT 1XX Life Skills Elective1 - 3 MATH 1XX Mathematics Elective3 XXXX XXX Humanities/Social & Behavioral Sciences Elective3 Select 1 of the following courses. COMM 101 Fundamentals of Public Speaking3 COMM 102 Introduction to Interpersonal Communication3 General Education: 19 - 21 Professional-Technical CINS 101 Introduction to Microcomputers3 HLHS 100 Introduction to Health Careers 3 HLHS 101 Medical Terminology 3 HLHS 105 Medical Law and Ethics3 HLHS 111 Health and Wellness for Life3 HLHS 211 Nutrition 3 Professional-Technical: 18 Concentration Electives - Choose 1 to 6 Courses HLHS 106 Health Care Support Certifications3 >>HLHS 115 Pharmacology for Health Care Support3 HLHS 118 Diversity in Health Care3 HLHS 202 Community Resources 3 HLHS 203 Disability Awareness in Health Care3 HUMS 120 Health and Aging3 HUMS 140 Loss and Grief3 MEAS 242 Disease Conditions 3 Concentration Electives - Choose 1 to 6 Courses: 24 Certification - Certified Nursing Assistant HLHS 107 CNA Preparation 5 Certification - Certified Nursing Assistant: 5 Certification -Dementia Care HLHS 113 Dementia Care 3 Certification - Dementia Care: 3 Certification - Electrocardiography CARD 205 Introduction to Electrocardiography3 CARD 206 Advanced Electrocardiograph Technique3 CARD 207 ECG Externship3 Certification - Electrocardiography: 9 Certification - Emergency Medical Technician PARM 102 Emergency Medical Technician - Basic Training7.5 Certification - Emergency Medical Technician: 7.5 Certification - Home Health Aide HLHS 114 Home Health Aide 5 Certification - Home Health Aide: 5 Certification - Pharmacy Technician PHAR 101 Pharmacy Technician I 3 PHAR 201 Pharmacy Technician II3 PHAR 202 Pharmacy Technician Experiential Seminar 3 Certification - Pharmacy Technician: 9 Certification - Phlebotomy MEAS 219 Medical Assisting Laboratory Techniques3 PHLB 212 Phlebotomy 3 PHLB 257 Phlebotomy Externship 3 Certification - Phlebotomy: 9 Certification - Qualified Medication Aide HLHS 117 QMA Preparation5 Certification - Qualified Medication Aide: 5

Any advice? Is this a question I should have asked in another forum?

In 2009 it was $9.05/hr as a Brand New Tech in Southern Indiana.

1) Request a transfer to another Unit 2) Find another Job 3) Put up with it till you can get the transfer 4) Bring your concerns up to your boss 5) Rock the boat, & hope for the best

Before work like everone else said good shoes, water, & I prefer double thick foam inserts. After work: Epsom Salt Warm Bath Icy Hot & your choice of Pain Killer

RN: General Education####APHY 101 Anatomy and Physiology I3####APHY 102 Anatomy and Physiology II3####ENGL 111 English Composition 3 IVYT 1XX Life Skills Elective1 - 3XXXXXXMATH 13X Mathematics Elective3####PSYC 101 Introduction to Psychology3Select 1 of the following courses. COMM 101 Fundamentals of Public Speaking3 COMM 102 Introduction to Interpersonal Communication3Select 1 of the following courses. ENGL 112 Exposition and Persuasion3 ENGL 211 Technical Writing 3Select 2 of the following courses. APHY 201 Advanced Human Physiology 4!!BIOL 201 General Microbiology 4!!BIOL 211 Microbiology I 3==CHEM 101 Introductory Chemistry I 3==CHEM 111 Chemistry I 4 PHYS 101 Physics I 4Select 1 of the following courses. PSYC 201 Lifespan Development 3 PSYC 205 Abnormal Psychology 3 PSYC 210 Drugs and Human Behavior3 PSYC 240 Human Sexuality 3 PSYC 242 Educational Psychology 3 PSYC 253 Introduction to Social Psychology3 PSYC 260 Health Psychology 3 SOCI 111 Introduction to Sociology3 SOCI 164 Multicultural Studies 3General Education: 31 - 35 Professional-Technical NRSG 100 Fundamentals of Nursing3xNRSG 101 Fundamentals of Nursing Lab1 NRSG 102 Medical Surgical Nursing I 2 NRSG 103 Medical Surgical Nursing Lab I 2 NRSG 105 Medical-Surgical Nursing I Clinical2 NRSG 106 Pharmacology for Nursing3 NRSG 110 Medical Surgical Nursing II3 NRSG 111 Medical Surgical Nursing II Clinical2 NRSG 112 Maternal Child Nursing 3 NRSG 113 Maternal-Child Nursing Clinical2 NRSG 114 Health Care Concepts in Nursing1^NRSG 200 Complex Medical-Surgical Nursing for the ASN3 NRSG 201 Complex Medical Surgical Nursing for the ASN Clinical4 NRSG 202 Nursing Complex Family 2 NRSG 203 Nursing Care of the Complex Family Clinical2 NRSG 204 Psychiatric Nursing 2 NRSG 205 Psychiatric Nursing Clinical 1Professional-Technical: 38 Total: 69 - 73

General Education APHY 101 Anatomy and Physiology I3 APHY 102 Anatomy and Physiology II3 ENGL 111 English Composition 3 IVYT 1XX Life Skills Elective1 - 3 MATH 1XX Mathematics Elective3 XXXX XXX Humanities/Social & Behavioral Sciences Elective3Select 1 of the following courses. COMM 101 Fundamentals of Public Speaking3 COMM 102 Introduction to Interpersonal Communication3General Education: 19 - 21 Professional-Technical CINS 101 Introduction to Microcomputers3 HLHS 100 Introduction to Health Careers 3 HLHS 101 Medical Terminology 3 HLHS 105 Medical Law and Ethics3 HLHS 111 Health and Wellness for Life3 HLHS 211 Nutrition 3Professional-Technical: 18 Concentration Electives - Choose 1 to 6 Courses HLHS 106 Health Care Support Certifications3>>HLHS 115 Pharmacology for Health Care Support3 HLHS 118 Diversity in Health Care3 HLHS 202 Community Resources 3 HLHS 203 Disability Awareness in Health Care3 HUMS 120 Health and Aging3 HUMS 140 Loss and Grief3 MEAS 242 Disease Conditions 3Concentration Electives - Choose 1 to 6 Courses: 24 Certification - Certified Nursing Assistant HLHS 107 CNA Preparation 5Certification - Certified Nursing Assistant: 5 Certification - Dementia Care HLHS 113 Dementia Care 3Certification - Dementia Care: 3 Certification - Electrocardiography CARD 205 Introduction to Electrocardiography3 CARD 206 Advanced Electrocardiograph Technique3 CARD 207 ECG Externship3Certification - Electrocardiography: 9 Certification - Emergency Medical Technician PARM 102 Emergency Medical Technician - Basic Training7.5Certification - Emergency Medical Technician: 7.5 Certification - Home Health Aide HLHS 114 Home Health Aide 5Certification - Home Health Aide: 5 Certification - Pharmacy Technician PHAR 101 Pharmacy Technician I 3 PHAR 201 Pharmacy Technician II3 PHAR 202 Pharmacy Technician Experiential Seminar 3Certification - Pharmacy Technician: 9 Certification - Phlebotomy MEAS 219 Medical Assisting Laboratory Techniques3 PHLB 212 Phlebotomy 3 PHLB 257 Phlebotomy Externship 3Certification - Phlebotomy: 9 Certification - Qualified Medication Aide HLHS 117 QMA Preparation5Certification - Qualified Medication Aide: 5 Total: 113.5 - 115.5

Paramedic: General Education APHY 101 Anatomy and Physiology I3 APHY 102 Anatomy and Physiology II3**COMM XXX Communications Elective3 ENGL 111 English Composition 3 IVYT 1XX Life Skills Elective1 - 3**MATH 1XX Mathematics Elective3 XXXX XXX Humanities/Social & Behavioral Sciences Elective3General Education: 19 - 21 Professional-Technical PARM 102 Emergency Medical Technician - Basic Training7.5 PARM 111 Preparatory 3 PARM 112 Prehospital Pharmacology 3 PARM 115 Airway, Patient Assessment 3.5 PARM 116 Clinical Application I 1.5 PARM 200 Trauma 3 PARM 210 Medical I 6 PARM 213 Medical II5 PARM 215 Special Considerations 3.5 PARM 216 Clinical Application II1.5 PARM 219 Clinical Application III1.5^PARM 220 Operations 2.5 PARM 221 Ambulance Internship 6

Presently, I just finished my Emt-B class with an A. Felt like it was a Medical Crash course of 16 weeks. We basically learned our ABC`s, & 13 Skill Sheets for Practicals. Don`t get me wrong the course book has 1100+ pages. However, it left me feeling that I lacked more knowledge than what I need for the EMS field. One day I`d like to move on to being a Paramedic/RN. There are a few programs that I`m interested in. I was debating about taking the Clinical Support Degree program before entering into the Paramedic program. Wanted to get Paramedic program done before chasing after the the RN. My current debate is if I should take the Clinical Support Degree program before going into Paramedic. This would be to build a good support structure for both being a Paramedic, & a RN. Would you jump straight into Paramedic program, & then the RN program after finishing Paramedic? or doese it make sense to take Clinical Support before both of these?

Techs that work in the ER can start IV`s if it is hospital policy. Two local hospitals were I live. Do let ER Techs start IV`s in the ER. Its a actual job requirement. However, PCT`s that work on the hospital floor do not do it. When doing clinicals I watched Techs starting IV`s, & asked them about it.

Don`t even need CNA to work in hospitals in Indiana. Requirements are up to the descreation of the hospitals.

I have to refigure my plan. College advisor got back to me. Even though the school offers the class, its not approved for pell grant or student loans. I`ll have to wait till they cash out tution refunds to take it. Which puts it off till atleast Febuary to start class. Unless I scrape up $650 for the class, & $75 for state exam. Ironically, my grant paid for my Emt-b class. The credits from the CNA class won`t count towards spring semester 12 credit total either. Not unless I was in the Health Care Support degree program. So I have to take a full 12 credit load, work full-time, 200hr ambulance intership. & add in CNA class . I had two goals for 2010 Emt-b & CNA cert. 2011 goals are getting into the Paramedic program, & Fire Fighter I & II certs. Staying busy is a goal to

I meant to say was looking into getting a ASN after getting a Associates of Paramedic Science. Not at the same time.

I`m trying to figure out how to get CNA cert without messing up next semester schedule. Presently, I`m a full-time worker/student & part-time dad. Next semester I`m looking at Intoduction to Psych, Introduction to College Writting II, 200hr Ambulance Intership, Life Skill Elective. & if I can get away with CNA class which is a 5 college credits. That would be a total of 14 credits vs the 12.5 this semester. The tradional CNA class is 4 weeks long with class 6hrs class 5 days a week. Then there is a 7 day clinical that follows. I thought about doing the hybrid class. Its a 20 session over the internet with 7 days of clinical. Clinicals are done over a 2 week period. Which it might be difficult to take off from work that much. I`ve got a 8 months worth of PCT experience on top of Emt-b trainning. Hopefully I`ll get my Emt-b cert the same time as CNA. Anyone done a hybrid class? How was your experience? & how did you do on the state test?

I just started the process of going after an Associate in Paramedic Science, probable got 2 1/2 to 3 yrs to go. I was thinking after this a ASN would be a good degree to accompany it. Especially with 10 yrs being the expected career of EMS personnel due to injury & burn out. How many RN/Paramedics work on a rig? Is there any advantage to being a RN/Paramedic in pre-hospital setting? Doese Scope of Practice change for any? or become blurry? In pre-hospital which liscensure or certification are you held to? Is there any disadvantage to holding both in pre-hospital? or hospital setting?

Do not seatle for that wadge, & keep looking. Only time you can be payed less the Federal Minium wage is if they have less than 10 Employees. Some Home Health Care agency will try to low ball at $8.25/hr. However, less than $9/hr keep looking. LTC you can probable pull in atleast $9.00/hr. Alot of places also have Shift differental for 3rds, & weekends. You may want to see if there are any accute care facility in your area. Also look into temp agency to. One in my area offers $13.50/hr, I worked for them didn`t like it. Got to many shifts cancelled due to low census. I was never a CNA, but a Tech. Hoping to be Emt-b cert by March. Then going to try for working in the ED.