Torchwood

Meh, either way is fine with me. If people can handle doing drugs and be normal, more power to them. If they cannot and it ruins their life, oh well.

I feel it is good for the student. They need to have better ideas of what a patient goes thru. We had to bath each other. Thats all. In shorts and t-shirt. It should have been a full bath. We did caths, iv's and everything else on dolls. We should have done it on each other. In the Army, we cath each other, male and female. Stuck each other. NG'd each other. Basicly anything you would do to a patient, you had to do it, and have it done to you. If people have personal, religious, moral, or other objections to bathing classmates, you might need a new job.

I was 35 when I went to nursing school. My mid-life crisis was to help people. The age of what I call "bad students" ran the gauntlet. Older people who felt to important to be bothered with rules. Younger people who didn't seem to care. I tried to ignore the bad, and work with the good. We had 60ish people, and 20 finished. To my personal shame, I was glad to see most of the 40 go.

If I had not been a speaker at graduation I would have tried to not be there. I cannot stand all the pomp. I paid to be in school and did well for me. To those that feel it is important, thats awsome. Go and enjoy it. More people then you think, would rather not be at these things. And if we do not go, we do not feel we missed anything. I skipped High School graduation. When I got my first degree, I skipped that also. These things are just not enjoyable to me. On a side note, I understand its tradition, but I had trouble saying the pledge. I don't belive in god, so swearing to a god was odd to me. I also met many nurses in my training who do not even come close to holding those promises. It felt hypocritical to go thru it. But I did it anyway for those around me.

I think I would have laughed. Then told her she could go home now. I understand being caught offguard and being run ragged all day though. The language and attitude, and refusal to follow directions should be enought to have her fired before she actually hurts someone.

I think it would be rare to see, much less be forced to help with in most hospitals. I am pro-life, but if I worked somewere that performed abortions, I would do my job and assist if call on. There are alot of things I don't belive in, but I leave that at home, when I go to work.

There are LPN programs with a college education, and there are trade school RN schools. You can go LPN to RN with a couple of weeks of clinicals and online classes. I have met RN's who are not at a level with aids, and LPN's who are not at the level of aids. Its the person, not the title, its what they decided to learn in school, and after hours. My thoughts are, for what they are worth; Two levels of nursing. Highly trained Aids, and RN's. In my area LPN's are being scaled down and replaced with, Techs, Medical Assistants, and a host of other short term class titles. Mainly because, most anything an LPN can do, can be done by a combo of RN and Aid. They make the RN work a little bit harder, and give the Aid a little more responsiblity, and the LPN falls out of the loop. For a while there seemed to be a trend of LPN's doing more, in my area at least, this seems to be reversing. They save money this way. Personally the closer we get to universal healthcare, the more will be done, by less people, possibly with less training. If they phase out the LPN, they would have to give a time frame for them to move be an RN, or become an Aid. It could be a proactive solution.

Not toss us out. Up the training, make PN's become RN's, up the training on CNA as well. Have two levels of well trained persons. How many people see CNA's doing lpn work, and lpn's doing rn work? I see it alot. And hey, if they leave it all the same I will not be bothered either. I am just expressing an opinion based on the post. My long term worry is, what role does an LPN have, that is not slowly being replaced?

Yes, lol, And I still feel that way. And my level of skill anywere I go seems to be, everything and Aid does, and half of what an RN does. Call me a CNA with better pay, or a RN with poor pay. Lets make it official, push some classes and have people test. Or demote my title. Make the word Nurse mean more.

If you never make mistakes, your not really a nurse. That being said, for 5 days in a row of errors, you are either careless, or overwhelmed. It sounds like overwhelmed. To many, to much, of everything, and to little time. Find a new job before a serious accident happens that costs you, and a patient. It sounds like to much for anyone, much less a new nurse. I wish you luck, and don't let it get you down.

Mahoganybbw I agree, there are excellent LPN's, I would say most of them. My thought is, Do we really need 3 levels of Nursing, CNA, PN, RN. LPN's are often doing a combination of a CNA's job, and an RN's job. Would we not be better off with a highly skilled CNA, and RN's. This might help remove some of the abuse LPN's are faced with

I had an instructor that would wander off into herbal medicine talks and forget the Meds lecture. Same one who told us all mental problems came from the body being to acidic from fried foods. In Nursing School remember, you teach yourself. Many times all the instructor does is hand you a book. They might lecture, they might do nothing, in the end, you only learn what you teach yourself. May not be true everywere, but if you only count on you, you know what to expect. We had one instructor who did nothing but read the chapter outloud to us. No lecture, no questions allowed. The school DON told us to stop being babys and expecting to have it spoon fed to us. After that point I disregarded anything an instructor said, and when from a B to an A. No more lecture notes, as they were often wrong on tests. I just read the book.

The LPN is a better trained CNA that gets stuck doing RN level work at times. They need to increase CNA training and pay them better, cut out LPN like several countries have, and have CNA's and RN's Just my opinion

I remember an instructor telling one of my fellow students they would never pass the Nclex, or be a good nurse. Of course they let her make it till near the end of school before bothering to tell her this. She had a disablity, but was making the grades just like everyone else. It happens. There are bad students, bad instructors, there is bad in everything. For the most part, there is much much more good then bad.

School seldom makes you ready for the real world. I knew some poor students, I had some good clincal rotations, and some were I made a point to forget everything I learned at that rotation, for fear of hurting someone. There are alot of bad students, bad nurses, bad hospitals, also alot of good. School preps you for boards, that have little to do with the real world.