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i understand that each foreign-educated nurse costs a hospital about $20,000 to $22,000 delivered. could that money be better spent on americans and the american nurse education infrastructure? they do sign 3-year non-cancelable contracts, so i guess that makes the $20 grand expense worth it to the hospital to stabilize its workforce.

What is your opinion from your experience. Does the foreign educated nurse generally contribute positively or negatively to the U.S. nursing profession?

well, lady_avoidant and others, there is your answer.

Great response Tish - Thanks!

Thanks Tish and all for the responses.

Wow Kooky Korky did you hit the nail on the head about HR departments. I also agree with ESME 12, soon people will be getting hiring scores like credit scores. This entire employment / hiring business is getting more Orwellian daily. But always remember that ''some pigs are more equal than others.''

Be hired and be paid . . .

The volunteer nursing program filled the hospitals with no cost labor. Wage paying hiring programs were stopped because of volunteer nursing programs. Now they are going to have to pay for what they were getting for free for so many years. Young nurses should be dancing in the streets. No more volunteer nursing on your resumes.

absolutely, the most important thing about texas are the friendly people. i am from texas. the town i am from is my last name. i go home to texas several times a year, especially for various tha meetings and the people are very open and friendly – even in austin! when my wife walks down the sidewalk, of my little town of my birth, the men still tip their lbj 'open road' stockman hats to her. our favorite coffee shop that is located on the town square across from the court house, serves the best chicken fried steak and biscuits or corn bread that would make my cardiologist wince if he knew about it and me eating it.

Does anyone know if there are States, dialysis companies or healthcare systems / hospitals that require a 4-year BSN to be a dislysis nurse? Same for certification; do any of the dialysis nursing certificates require a 4-year BSN? Thank you.

New grad - think cost of living. Texas is a lot cheaper than NY. Also its about a different life style. Some peeps like 'them wide open spaces.' You don't know what beauty is until you see of herd of Longhorns or Angus moseying down to the water troughs at dusk as you step in a fresh cow pie.

the problem with these tests are that they are purely subjective, not objective, also. these ''humanmetrics types" got their start with jung and briggs myers. i dated one of them in college for about 2-weeks. she was into talking about ''it.'' her interest was what ''it'' and humans' preferences meant, rather than doing ''it.'' finally, i asked her to excuse me that i wanted to go out and get a pack of cigarettes. it took her another 2-weeks to remember that i did not smoke.

if i were a young man again, i would go to law school rather than get a useless mba. after graduation and passing the bar i would make my goal, before i die, to unionize the nursing profession in america and put an end to a lot of the c rapola that is perpetrated against nurses - such as personality tests.

We stopped placing nurses at Providence Hospitals especially in Washington state. For a recruiter to walk away from a paying client, they have to be pretty bad. We just got tired of hearing the horrible feedback from the nurses, therapists and med techs that we placed with them. PS - If you can help it, never work at a hospital that has nursing school(s) near by. The pay will always be low. The hospital management will always be top heavy.

What can I say, this stuff can't be made up. Another with a loser HR department is Trinity now purchased by Lifecare. Nothing improved, it just got worse. I find it funny that many HR types will not speak to a recruiter - they hide behind voice mail . . . . until they get fired.

Is a 4-year BSN required to become a dialysis nurse in any state or with any dialysis company?

Personality exams - another example of what happens when the patients take over the asylum. If I am coding I could care less if the attending nurse considers whether littering or violation of handicap parking a worse offense against mankind. Scott and White in Texas use a personality exam. Unfortunately, they do not use it on their human resources department staff. As a recruiter, I am seeing a shift of interest of our nurses in many states including Texas going away from the big cities to the rural hospitals. None of our clients, that I know of in the rural areas, use personality tests. That is what the face-to-face interview is for.

You must, and I mean must, go to that interview. The lack of documents will likely generate a request for documents and best of all a 1-year extension to get the documents together and get a new interview. I imagine that you are at least missing your I-797c. There are several threads on foreign-nurse ******** about priority dates, embassy interviews and upcoming Abandoned Nurse Job Fair that cannot be discussed here on All Nurses, but you can get the info that you need on that blog. Good Luck!

We have 29 healthcare clients; one of them has over 100 facilities. I have had HR types tell me some amazing things in confidence; things that could result, if known publically, in massive litigation. But I have never heard of age being a cut off to icu employment. Many times I hear just the opposite. They want the mature nurses that has seen it and done it all and stays cool under fire. However, one HR director in a Southern hospital did not want me to send him any more "nurses with brown skin." That meant Hispanic, Filipino, AA etc. I asked him ''did that include white men and women with really good tans?" The idiot was fired about a month later and went off to that land where fired HR directors go and you never hear from them again. An associate thinks that he might be fixing rock pitted windshields in supermarket parking lots.

The nurses on the Lefora blog are doing something about being abandoned. They are going to march on POEA in an attempt to get the hospitals and agencies that abandoned them banned from recruiting the Philippines forever.

The nurses on the Lefora blog are doing something about being abandoned. They are going to march on POEA in an attempt to get the hospitals and agencies that abandoned them banned from recruiting the Philippines forever.

good news if true. volunteer programs are absolutely exploitive and immoral; another example of physicians’ exploitation of nurses. if all nurses would refuse to work until such injustices as this are ended, this kind of abuse would end. american nurses unionized to end this kind of garbage, fils nurses should also. but they will not. they will continue to be abused. but once the fils nurse gets to america it all changes. they become some of the most active in the union movement.

These hiring challenges for new grad RNs in the Philippines are the direct result of visa retrogression in the US. Before visa retrogression a lot of hospital experienced nurses were recruited and deployed to the States. Now they are not leaving those hospital jobs in the Philippines for America and the new grads are not getting hired. The only thing that helps is for the visa retrogressed nurses' priority dates to come current and they then get their EB3 visas and clear out of jobs for the new nurses to take over.