PapaPhil

i understand that each foreign-educated nurse costs a hospital about $20,000 to $22,000 delivered. could that money be better spent on americans and the american nurse education infrastructure? they do sign 3-year non-cancelable contracts, so i guess that makes the $20 grand expense worth it to the hospital to stabilize its workforce.

What is your opinion from your experience. Does the foreign educated nurse generally contribute positively or negatively to the U.S. nursing profession?

well, lady_avoidant and others, there is your answer.

Great response Tish - Thanks!

Thanks Tish and all for the responses.

Wow Kooky Korky did you hit the nail on the head about HR departments. I also agree with ESME 12, soon people will be getting hiring scores like credit scores. This entire employment / hiring business is getting more Orwellian daily. But always remember that ''some pigs are more equal than others.''

Be hired and be paid . . .

The volunteer nursing program filled the hospitals with no cost labor. Wage paying hiring programs were stopped because of volunteer nursing programs. Now they are going to have to pay for what they were getting for free for so many years. Young nurses should be dancing in the streets. No more volunteer nursing on your resumes.

absolutely, the most important thing about texas are the friendly people. i am from texas. the town i am from is my last name. i go home to texas several times a year, especially for various tha meetings and the people are very open and friendly – even in austin! when my wife walks down the sidewalk, of my little town of my birth, the men still tip their lbj 'open road' stockman hats to her. our favorite coffee shop that is located on the town square across from the court house, serves the best chicken fried steak and biscuits or corn bread that would make my cardiologist wince if he knew about it and me eating it.

Does anyone know if there are States, dialysis companies or healthcare systems / hospitals that require a 4-year BSN to be a dislysis nurse? Same for certification; do any of the dialysis nursing certificates require a 4-year BSN? Thank you.

New grad - think cost of living. Texas is a lot cheaper than NY. Also its about a different life style. Some peeps like 'them wide open spaces.' You don't know what beauty is until you see of herd of Longhorns or Angus moseying down to the water troughs at dusk as you step in a fresh cow pie.

the problem with these tests are that they are purely subjective, not objective, also. these ''humanmetrics types" got their start with jung and briggs myers. i dated one of them in college for about 2-weeks. she was into talking about ''it.'' her interest was what ''it'' and humans' preferences meant, rather than doing ''it.'' finally, i asked her to excuse me that i wanted to go out and get a pack of cigarettes. it took her another 2-weeks to remember that i did not smoke.

if i were a young man again, i would go to law school rather than get a useless mba. after graduation and passing the bar i would make my goal, before i die, to unionize the nursing profession in america and put an end to a lot of the c rapola that is perpetrated against nurses - such as personality tests.

We stopped placing nurses at Providence Hospitals especially in Washington state. For a recruiter to walk away from a paying client, they have to be pretty bad. We just got tired of hearing the horrible feedback from the nurses, therapists and med techs that we placed with them. PS - If you can help it, never work at a hospital that has nursing school(s) near by. The pay will always be low. The hospital management will always be top heavy.

What can I say, this stuff can't be made up. Another with a loser HR department is Trinity now purchased by Lifecare. Nothing improved, it just got worse. I find it funny that many HR types will not speak to a recruiter - they hide behind voice mail . . . . until they get fired.