Tegridy

I think the big issue now is the large sum of for-profit programs. Seems like every new NP we see on a general medicine service is from like some random online place listed as for-profit. Feel bad for the doc co-signing those charts

Well, the truth is the truth until NP education is adequate the eye rolls and sighs when seeing APP orders will continue.

It isn't a national requirement as it should be. The rest of this post is just salt being tossed at someone's career choice. I would say since I already completed the curriculum and took the NP exam and can somewhat compare it to what medical training entails I have an opinion that has at least some merit. I sense a bit of inadequacy in this post, but to each their own. 500 hours to even get to the point of being able to RX meds is not enough. Much less than most trades.

well if we have excluded organic pathology and all the ct has is constipation I doubt I would give anything more than simethicone and some laxatives. They can leave if they want.

IDK the division of labor between RN and RT serves some purpose. If anything it lets each stay fresh in his or her role as we tend to get good/stay good by doing what it is we do frequently.

Well let's start by petitioning for a mandatory year of residency or fellowship or OJT that has to be submitted to XYZ state board of nurse practitioner'ing

yep grifters will always exist when power allows. At least we arent quite to the politician level ?

I mean the standards haven't changed so why would someone stop voicing concerns?

You learned to read CT scans in three weeks? Something that takes radiologists years to do? Sure

Yeah im not sure why they got triggered from the posts. A review of my posts include critique of medical education also as it has its flaws. Some of which they are fixing by nixing the heavy burden of basic sciences and putting in earlier patient exposure. By nixing I do not mean doing away with, but they are lightening up on biochem to keep it more clinically relevant. Same with histo and a few other classes. I could have done without much of the biochem specifics we had to memorize and forget. I mean you cant expect us to completely take APP education seriously when the social media nurses all get hot over "new interns starting July first watch out" but are perfectly fine with an APP w 500 hours of oftentimes shadowing having more freedom than the said intern. Hence why there is a lot of eye rolling going on from our side.

I thought they had to take advanced classes too. Those were probably the only somewhat helpful classes back in my program.

It seems as most here agree the education is lacking. A barber has more clinical hours than an NP

Okay the first part of this post has great merit. The second part sounds like it was describing CRNA school not nursing experience. I see how ICU experience can help for those not just coasting through

You bring a good point to certain nursing specialties having useful knowledge transfer to the provider role

If the authors names and titles were taken out of the prior posts I doubt one would be able to pick out who is a physician versus not. I believe you may be responding more toward the author than the actual post content.

Yeah true the better salary after I'll admit to that.

Less dumb consults, wasted blood products, and pointless lab tests. And better outcomes, which sometimes this one can be difficult

Also probably means not wasting money on tests that arent indicated

The sick ones should have more HCC codes thus higher reimbursement

I just sit around and supervise interns all day, plenty of time.

Nothing about being better, just to be able to specialize mostly and do things that one currently cannot do as an APP currently. I did forget to mention much of the time it seems, at least on specialty services, the NPs do not bill themselves, at least on an inpatient basis. I wouldnt call it trolling to say a resident is more useful than most APPs. I would say a majority are after six months of internship.

Yeah it's odd how APPs can bill right out of school. Now we see why the entire system makes no sense.

IDK the APRN residences even tend to pay more. Even more than fellowship pays after our residency if we choose to do one.

I think what I posted is more benign than most of the above.

im just waiting for the day residents make more than APPs. Hopefully it's coming soon, no fresh salaried APP should ever make more than a resident if we are going by educational standards.