Hi everyone! I need your help IDing my unknown.I ran some tests and here are the results:1. Starch Hydrolysis: positive2. OF Glucose: negative3. Fermentation Tube: Glucose: positive, gas negative. Lactose: negative, gas negative. Sucrose: positive, gas negative4. Citrate: negative5. Urease: positive, slow6. Phenylalanine: negative7. Hydrogen sulfide: negative8. Motility: negative9. Ornithine: negative10. Indole: negative11. Oxidase: negative. (Although I'm not that sure cause it only turned blue. not pink to blue to black.)12. Catalase: posiive13. MRVP: negative14. Gelatin Hydrolysis: positive15. Nitrate Reduction: positiveI did gram stain it couple of times and its Gram negative rod. Not 100% sure since I'm not that confident.And if you have links it would be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance. God Bless.
microwow 9 Posts Jul 19, 2010 and also, whenever i test it for growth, the bacteria floats on top of the liquid media.
Cherish 876 Posts Specializes in Junior Year of BSN. Jul 19, 2010 You should use the chart provided in your lab to get your unknowns.http://www3.kumc.edu/aamsa/subjects/...flow-chart.jpghttp://www3.kumc.edu/aamsa/subjects/...flow-chart.jpg
microwow 9 Posts Jul 19, 2010 I checked those websites already. Thanks.I'm down to Shigella and Proteus. Which to choose? I can't fail this one. Help! Please.
iPink, BSN, RN 1,414 Posts Specializes in Critical Care, Postpartum. Has 10 years experience. Jul 19, 2010 Shigella wasn't one of our unknowns, but Proteus was. Based on your results it doesn't seem like you have Proteus. Proteus is Citrate positive, Urease positive, has motility, Hydrogen sulfide positive. In fact it's positive for all tests except for VP test and PRL test.
K nurse-one-day 693 Posts Jul 19, 2010 We just did ours last week. it's hard huh? you should choose shigella
shortnorthstudent 357 Posts Jul 19, 2010 I cannot help you, but want to wish you loads of luck figuring it out. I'm a few weeks behind you in micro. We start on our unknowns in another week. My understanding though is that we have to identify 2 - starting out in a mixed sample and that one will be gram+ and the other gram-.I'm terrified of this. We were told if we didn't get at least 1 of them correct, we fail the class (even though it's only 20% of our grade) no matter how well we do in the rest of the course.
microwow 9 Posts Jul 20, 2010 I'm confused with my interpretations. I did Citrate and OF glucose test last week (TUE) and read the results the next day. I got both negative reaction. When I checked the test tubes this afternoon (MON), the citrate agar turned blue which is positive, and OF glucose turned both yellow meaning Fermenter right?! Now, I'm confused which interpretion do I follow? The 24 hour incubation day or the longer Incubation time? I'm so not a happy camper right now.Thanks for your help.I think it's Proteus.
Jack245 102 Posts Specializes in CNA, Nursing Student. Has 1 years experience. Jul 20, 2010 Almost a week seems a bit long. That might cause false results. However, I can't help you more than that, when I did my unknown I had an easy one, Pseudomonas. Turned my plate green.
K nurse-one-day 693 Posts Jul 20, 2010 Incubation time should be more than 1 day. mine incubated for 8 days
iPink, BSN, RN 1,414 Posts Specializes in Critical Care, Postpartum. Has 10 years experience. Jul 20, 2010 OP, I guess every school is different. But, when we did our Unknowns, we came back 5 days later to check our results. I don't know why they allowed you to check it the next day? Some bacteria may need to react for more than 24 hours, which is why they give you a couple of days to read your results.If bacteria turned the Citrate blue (a positive result), yes Proteus is a possibility. However, Proteus isn't the only bacterium that yields a positive result to this test. For example, Enterobacter and Salmonella. What are the other possible bacterium you've studied?Students shouldn't take identifying their unknowns lightly. Taking proper notes to prepare yourself should have been done, so you're not having to sweat over this.
Jack245 102 Posts Specializes in CNA, Nursing Student. Has 1 years experience. Jul 20, 2010 Incubation time should be more than 1 day. mine incubated for 8 daysMore than one day yes. 2-3. I just distinctly remember my professor warning us against letting them incubate for too long, as it could cause false results given that the bacteria can do nearly anything given enough time.