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Med error or not

This happened a few weeks ago. This facility is in a lot of trouble with the state for numerous medication errors that have been going on for months. They have medication techs that give medications on all areas.

This one day, a nurse was not told about any problems with a patient not getting coumadin or lovenox since her arrival at the facility. She did not work on that unit very often, but enough to know that there are problems there. She recieved a phone call from the doctor's office staff asking if the lovenox and coumadin had been given yesterday. There was no coumadin orders in the chart that she could find, but the lovenox had been given the previous shift and by her at 9 am. She called the PT/INR to the doctor office and asked for the coumadin and lovenox orders for that day and when the next recheck should be. She wrote the orders out on the chart. The ward clerk took off the orders and assured the nurse she had done everything to the order. The only thing the nurse had to do was note off the order. The nurse and the ward clerk both called and told the pharmacy and stressed how important it was that the patient get the medication. The nurse's shift was over and she gave report to the oncoming nurse. The coumadin and the lovenox is due on her shift. The nurse told her about the problems that they had encoutered. The charge nurse knew all about it and went in and told the rest of the story that the other nurse did not know. This conversation took place in front of the nurse coming on.

The next day the nurse that took the order and noted it off was called on the phone and fired on the sport. The medication had not been given. The ward clerk had not been honest and did not write it on the medication sheet. The med tech did not give the pill even though it was delievered in time.

Having said all that, my question to everyone is: Is that a medication error on the day shift nurse or the evening shift nurse? Should the nurse that noted off the order be fired, written up, or suspened or what?

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Amen twins (hehe); anyway, I would never depend on a ward clerk to note off medication orders ... seriously.

Why on earth would you sign off an order that you have not checked to make certain it was done?

I am beng told by the nurse, that the way the facility does it. The ward clerk writes it on the MAR and that the nurse is suppose to check and make sure that the medication is written correctly. The problem with this is that the medication tech's usually have the med books some place else and the nurses do not always have acces to it. According to her there are a lot of problems with getting charts, medication records and other documentation a nurse needs. This is a common practice and everyone thinks you are being a ***** if you say anything about it. This nurse tells me of an hour and half that she looked for a chart in order to call the doctor a critical lab.

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This is the root of the problem right there. Yes, both nurse are at fault, but I believe the day nurse holds a bit more of it as she did not do her job properly. You NEVER take anyone's word in place of doing what you re supposed to do. But, I do not think firing her was needed.

I always follow through with any order I sign off on...I have learned to trust no one...I really don't care if offends someone else, because I know that a good nurse or other employee would not be offended...It is all about CYA!!

I agree with all the above especially since it's a high priority med. We are not talking Colace here!

I agree with all the above especially since it's a high priority med. We are not talking Colace here!

It does not matter or not whether this was a high priority med. You need to treat any ordered medication

the same. Documentation should be the same for any ordered medication. No one should sign off on any order

if they have not verified that order was carried over to the MAR. And I still cannot fathom letting a unit clerk write the medications on the MAR.

Christy,RN

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