Does anyone think it would be worth it to have a forum dedicated clinically to the new MDS 3.0? It could be used for discussion or answering questions or getting ideas and feedback about the forms, process, coding, etc? Sometimes it's hard to muddle through the "chat" to find clinical info on the boards. (I'm not complaining - I love the chattiness! It's nice to find out how other folks feel about certain things).

This board is pretty dead. I can't imagine that a sub-forum is necessary.

maybe it could be put at the top as a "sticky thread". I don't know how to make that happen..does anyone else?

maybe it could be put at the top as a "sticky thread". I don't know how to make that happen..does anyone else?

Admins and mods can.

I believe it's a good idea. I know our local study group is very helpful. The AANAC test is a little harder than I thought it would be, and it would be good to share tidbits about that, I think. IMHO. The 3.0 is a big culture change for us as MDS Co-ordinators, as it forces the IDT into more engagement in the MDS and actual care planning process than the 2.0, at least for my building. I liken it to the skills needed for herding feral cats.....

pretty funny about the "herding". we do feel like that don't we? and mine all stray in different directions.

i was wondering, do any of your buildings or companies plan on hiring any more help? or have any "other" responsibilities that you have been cut back? during our training we just hit the meat of the general assessment. when asked this morning who was going to be responsible for the discharge assessment, i had it printed out before it was assigned to me. our little one or two page discharge has become a 27 page monstrosity.

Speaking of all the pages - just the storage of these new MDS forms will be a huge pain. We've got at least 8 binders on one end of our facility, and 10 on the other for holding the most recent MDS'. I haven't been told we're going paperless, so now there's also going to be much more paper & printer ink usage.

Are there any MDS coordinators out there who work in swing bed hospitals? Many of the changes pertain to swing beds too and I can't find much, if any information on this.

are there any mds coordinators out there who work in swing bed hospitals? many of the changes pertain to swing beds too and i can't find much, if any information on this.

download the mds 3.0 manual

chapter 2-3 ...

swing bed facility residents: swing beds of non-critical access hospitals that provide part a skilled nursing facility-level services were phased into the snf pps on july 1, 2002 (referred to as swing beds in this manual). swing bed providers must assess the clinical condition of beneficiaries by completing the mds assessment for each medicare resident receiving part a snf level of care in order to be reimbursed under the snf pps. in addition, effective october 1, 2010, cms will begin to collect mds data for quality monitoring purposes of swing bed facilities. therefore, swing bed providers must also complete the entry record, discharge assessments, and death in facility record. requirements for the medicare-required pps assessments, entry record, discharge assessments and death in facility record outlined in this manual also apply to swing bed facilities, including but not limited to, completion date, encoding requirements, submission time frame, and rn signature. there is no longer a separate swing bed mds assessment manual.

types of assm't - p2-11

instructions - p2-49 to 2-53

Thank you. What I was wondering is how swing bed hospitals are assigning work duties to cover the extended MDS. Up till Oct. 1, we have had a 2 page MDS and 1 person could easily handle it. The changes for us are quite extensive. If anyone from a swing bed will share their plans for 3.0, I would appreciate it. My back ground does include MDS-coordinator at a nursing home, so the long form is not foreign to me (thank heavens).

You are not kidding. I seriously believe the nurse or nurses at the federal/state level who came up with the idea of a 27 page assessment for a discharge tracking should be taken out and put through as much pain as legally possible. Unbelievable. I really feel for the MDS cooridinators who are already having a hard time keeping up with the constant flow of admissions, transfers and discharges. This is absolutely ridiculously unbelievable.