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LOST our accreditation NLNAC

I am in an adn program and my school is Well was one of the best known nursing programs in our state. Some even say better than many BSN programs. This school has always been accredited by the HLC and NLNAC for forever. They've never been on probation or lost accreditation, atleast not until now. Today was our first day of school and the chairman came in to speak to all the nursing patients to explain that we are reapplying for the NLNAC and we have nothing to worry about as it won't affect our sitting for NCLEX or working or continuing on education. Now I know accreditation by NLNAC isn't required but It's veeryyy important, so I've heard. Has anyone gone through this? Has anyone heard that it is hard to become accredited quickly once a school has lost accreditation. We were also told it has nothing to do with our curriculum esp since we have a 96%+ pass rate for the nclex. I am so devastated. I mean I know I have two years to graduate but still...

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this morning, my nursing director told us that most community colleges in LA, Calif. do NOT have big fund to apply for NLN accreditation nowadays since the budget was cut last 2-3 years. To apply for that, nursing department has to spend at least 25-30k dollars for ppl who come to the school and work on NLN accrediation (including: flight tickets, hotels.. blah blah)

For people who graduated from non- NLN accredited school in CALIFORNIA, and want to have RN-BSN degree, NURSING DEPARTMENT IN CAL STATE UNIVERSITIES accept all schools (as long as your school has name on CA BON)

I would be very concerned as to why the school lost accreditation.

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In what way would this pose a threat!? Is it hard for most school to reapply successfully?

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this morning, my nursing director told us that most community colleges in LA, Calif. do NOT have big fund to apply for NLN accreditation nowadays since the budget was cut last 2-3 years. To apply for that, nursing department has to spend at least 25-30k dollars for ppl who come to the school and work on NLN accrediation (including: flight tickets, hotels.. blah blah)

For people who graduated from non- NLN accredited school in CALIFORNIA, and want to have RN-BSN degree, NURSING DEPARTMENT IN CAL STATE UNIVERSITIES accept all schools (as long as your school has name on CA BON)

Hmm Thanks for this. I hope were the same.

I would contact one of the colleges you interested doing you RN to BSN program, and see if it matters.

Good luck

My ADN program lost their NLNAC accreditation, mainly from a lack of a sufficient percentage of instructors with MSN degrees. My program had a great reputation in the area and was well respected, also putting out nursing students arguably better prepared for the workforce than the local BSN programs. It took approx 4 years, and 2 applications and site visits to earn it back. During that time we were told that we would not have a problem continuing on in the Rn to Bsn programs at out state universities and it would not be a factor getting hired on at our local hospitals. Where the issue would come up is with federal jobs, e.g., VA hospitals or state hospitals. It is an unsettling feeling though; I can understand your concern. When my class was told the school earned the accreditation back and it would not be a factor for us, there was a huge sigh of relief let out by everyone. It's just one less obstacle to deal with in the tough job market today. Although, my school was just re-accredited this past winter and I have not heard of previous graduates struggling to find jobs because of the lack of accreditation.

Did the chairman say that they had LOST their accreditation or just that they were REAPPLYING? There's a big difference. All scholls have to reapply for accreditation on a regular basis. Basically it means that the school has to submit data, records, etc. and someone from the accrediting agency will come to evaluate the school's program and facilities. The school's accreditation can be pending until the new accreditation application is approved.

If the school did lose their accreditation, I would question why. It usually takes a fairly big event for that to happen so suddenly. And then the school has to come up with a plan for resolution, implement the plan, and usually prove that they have fixed the original issue. It's not exactly a quick process.

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Did the chairman say that they had LOST their accreditation or just that they were REAPPLYING? There's a big difference. All scholls have to reapply for accreditation on a regular basis. Basically it means that the school has to submit data, records, etc. and someone from the accrediting agency will come to evaluate the school's program and facilities. The school's accreditation can be pending until the new accreditation application is approved.

If the school did lose their accreditation, I would question why. It usually takes a fairly big event for that to happen so suddenly. And then the school has to come up with a plan for resolution, implement the plan, and usually prove that they have fixed the original issue. It's not exactly a quick process.

Well SHE said reapply. But I checked online on NLNAC and our school wasn't found. Doesn't that mean were lost it.

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Not necessarily. The old accreditation may have expired and they didn't try to renew it. That's different that having something go terribly wrong and having the accreditation taken away from them. Get all the facts before making any decisions.

Personally, I would not go to a school without all the proper accreditations ...but that's just me. I don't like to take chances with that sort of thing.

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Not necessarily. The old accreditation may have expired and they didn't try to renew it. That's different that having something go terribly wrong and having the accreditation taken away from them. Get all the facts before making any decisions.

Personally, I would not go to a school without all the proper accreditations ...but that's just me. I don't like to take chances with that sort of thing.

I already Startef which is why It's a huge thing for y's as students. We just found out after after classes started

Go to the NLN website and see what is posted for your school and its program. Then, call the NLN and talk to the specialist who works with your school & program. Get specific facts; exactly what is going on. Was the accreitation pulled or did the school decide not to renew it? If the accreditation was pulled, this did not happen out of the blue. There would have been warnings and the your school would have a warning attached to it. You need more info about what is going on.

Whatever the reason, one should avoid attending a non-accredited nursing programs or a nursing program that is in danger of losing its accreditation. "Working on getting accreditation; Reapplying for accreditation" does not equate to "WILL get accreditation" nor "We ARE accreditated"

Below is a link to an article on a nursing program that lost its accreditation and the challenges that students of this program are facing:

DACC nursing program loses accreditation; questions loom for students - Las Cruces Sun-News

The article discusses an example of what could happen to students who attend a non-accreditated nursing program. There may be non-accreditated programs with graduates that were able to obtain jobs and purse higher education - none to my knowledge, though.

OP, the choice to stay in the program is yours; however, I advise you to drop out of this program ASAP. You will have a harder time pursuing resitution from the program if you decide to continue with the program after being told by the chairman on the first day of classes that they are reapplying for the NLNAC accreditation and they don't have NLNAC accrediation.

Assuming that you made a "non-refundable" deposit for this program - Depending on state/federal laws, you could probably get a refund for a "non-refundable" deposit and any other payment made as a direct or indirect result of the program if the program continued to claim NLNAC accreditation at the time you applied and when you made the payments for the program. If such is the case, the program's officials failed to deliver what was promised (NLNAC accreditation) and thus would be obligated by law to pay back at least your deposit. Payments that were made due to false pretenses/false advertisement are refundable by law. Parties that are unable to deliver what was promised is obligated by law to refund payments made to them and pay for any damages resulting from their failure to deliver.

If you do decide to drop out of the program and get your deposit back, try talking to the chairman of the program first before seeking legal counsel.

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