How narrow is the path?

mandana · May 10, 2006

My API class started with 32 people. At the final, there were 4 of us. Three of us passed the class.

In the first semseter of nursing school we lost 2 of 20.

That's all I've got.

Amanda

HARRN2b · May 10, 2006

Scary, I am taking a and p 1 this summer. I bought the book 2 months ago and have been reading ahead. I pray I pass this class!!!!

Faeriewand, ASN, RN · May 10, 2006

I took A&P1 last summer. Began with about 60. Ended with about 40. Teacher is just not doing a good job if more than 50% don't finish the class. I had a great teacher and yes it was a very very tough class.

lwick · May 10, 2006

My teacher for A&P I enjoyed his reputation as being the hardest teacher on campus. There were about 30 of us at the beginning. 10 at the end of the semester. I ended up with a C in the class (the only C I have made:angryfire). The funny thing is I got an A in A&P II and feel like I learned alot more from this teacher.

allnurses Guide · May 10, 2006

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Odds of passing A&P I: 12 out of 75
Odds of passing A&P II:
Odds of getting accepted into nursing school within 2 years:
Odds of passing all nursing classes:
Odds of passing the NCLEX:
Odds of surviving the first year:
Odds of still being a nurse after 5 years:
Odds of still being a nurse after 10 years:
And finally, odds of retiring after at least 20 years of nursing:
Thanks,
pel :cheers:

Passed all my classes the first time.

Still a nurse, 25 years.

Can't retire, widowed mom, 3 kids, 19 years to go before age 65.

:pumpiron: :pumpiron: :pumpiron: :pumpiron:

Gennaver, MSN · May 10, 2006

A question came into my mind after observing the huge number of drops in my A&P I class. In my class, we had 75 people to begin with. During finals we had 16, about 4 of which were not even close to passing. Who knows how many didn't even get into A&P because they registered late.
Can you guys help me with stats for the remainder of the journey to "retiree-nurse". Don't worry, we don't have to be scientific here. Just provide numbers from your experience (please base answers off of your observations, not from a guesstimate). It might be interesting to see how narrow the path was that we all have to tread. If I get enough replies to make it a good sample, I'll average it all out and let you know that you are 1 in ????
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Odds of passing A&P I: 12 out of 75
Odds of passing A&P II:
Odds of getting accepted into nursing school within 2 years:
Odds of passing all nursing classes:
Odds of passing the NCLEX:
Odds of surviving the first year:
Odds of still being a nurse after 5 years:
Odds of still being a nurse after 10 years:
And finally, odds of retiring after at least 20 years of nursing:
Thanks,
pel :cheers:

Pelsmith,

This is a precarious way to consider it. Not everyone has the same motivations, support, (emotional and financial), nor the same abiltities and the same current life situation as each other.

Many of these folks who drop out may never come back, some just might come back with a fire in them and their eyes on the end goal of success.

Possibly some may realize that they really do not like this field and decide not to put the time, effort and money into the education for it.

Although, one soon to be nurse that I was talking with at a nurse recruiters office told me that her ADN program had dwindled from something like 50 to 8!! Not a great feeling to see people you consider your cohort to drop like flies.

Yes, it is hard and yes, sometimes life's circumstances get in the way.

Best wishes,

Gen

p.s. edited to add, in the Masters entry program that I am in we lost one person who decided to withdraw during quarter three, it wansn't his grades though, (his undergrad is as a bio-engineer) he just realized that this was not what he wanted to do, out of the 25 of us another classmate decided to downgrade to part time as she is a full time mom! Knocking on wood for my group too!

weirdRN, RN · May 10, 2006

I had all A's until I got to real core nursing classes. A&P, Micro, Chem, Algebra, All A's. First semester nursing school , I missed my A by three points. Second semester, same story, third semester, peds and ob portion, I got an 82 but failed b/c of a personality conflict with a clinical instructor( I take full responsibility for my part in that conflict. I could have been more professional, I chose, not consciously, to antagonize) Incidentally I got an A in psych. I re-did ob and peds and got a 93. In fourth semester the first time, I strained my back, had a miscarriage, and got pneumonia, so I had to drop out. In the second go round, I got a 79. I was just grateful to have made it through. It took eighteen months longer for me to complete my program b/c I was stupid in a no stupid zone.

My class started with 20 (accelerated). The day and evening classes had 40 and 20 respectively.

We lost two in first semester.(of the original group)

We gained two in second. (re-treads)

We lost four in second.(of the original group)

We gained four in third.(re-treads)

We lost eight in third.(of the orignial group)

We merged with the day group in fourth.

We started with 53 in fourth semester.

38 graduated.

I think this is farily common t/o nursing education. There is just a lot of stress, and a lot to learn. If you have anything to distract from studying and focusing solely on school, such as children and a life, it will bring your grades down and impact on whether or not you pass even.

MajorAl · May 10, 2006

I don't remember how many in my class washed out after prelim classes. I was one of 140, one of whom I know has retired. (not me:crying2: ) I plan to retire in about 3 years. This is an interesting idea and I wonder if anyone else has pursued it and published any results.

Sis123 · May 10, 2006

I'd like to see these same numbers PER SCHOOL.

Also, it would be helpful (as someone selecting a nursing school) to know the numbers:

a. How many people entered the program & the year

b. How many graduated from the program & the year

c. How many people from each years program passed NCLEX.

This would give you a good idea of the effectiveness of the schools initial selection comittee, the effectiveness of the instructors.

Some schools "invest" more in each student, and some schools seem to not care so much. Some schools simply give the students the HESI a little while before graduation and if you don't pass the HESI, then you are not allowed to graduate. Seems like an odd way to keep your school's pass rate high, when potential students want to know just how many people were eliminated from the program and why.

maliat · May 10, 2006

I would like to know this too. In my prereqs none of my classes really lost a lot of people like other posters have described, but I don't really know how everyone did in their classes. I took my classes at a community college and there were about 30-35 per class to start with. I mean how many did well enough to get into nursing school?

I just got admitted to a BSN program. We're the largest class yet at 56. Just from orientation it sounds they are very supportive. As they said once you get on the bus, they'll help you stay there.

Malia

snowfreeze, BSN, RN · May 10, 2006

Went into nursing school after 2 kids, had a 3rd in between 1st and 2nd year, had to take one year off due to august c-section. I was early 30's at that time. My pre-req classes dwindled by about 1/3, my nursing classes first year we lost almost 1/2 of the students. 2nd year most of us took the final exam, I think out of around 60 we lost about 10. We took our final exam at my church due to the fact that our community college had already assigned the large room to another group for the date of our exam. My church elders were kind enough to offer our meeting room and a large parking lot for free. This was 16 years ago.