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Hope is not a strategy

Aug 21, 20205 yr

“In a potential preview of what their messaging will be during next week’s convention, the Republican presidential ticket is again insisting that the coronavirus will go away by a “miracle.”

During a Thursday night interview with Fox News’ Sean Hannity timed to coincide with the final night of the Democratic National Convention, President Trump said he hoped the pandemic was “nearing the final term.”

That was followed by a round of Friday morning interviews by Vice President Mike Pence. On CNN, Pence said “we think there’s a miracle around the corner” in the form of a coronavirus vaccine that could be available by the end of the year, calling it a “tribute to President Trump’s leadership.” This follows comments from Trump earlier this month predicting a vaccine could be ready by Election Day, and earlier this year when he alluded to the virus disappearing “like a miracle.””

Any day now...... A bigly, huge, beautiful miracle that some people have talked about that loves trump will arrive.

Hope is not a strategy.

https://www.MSN.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-strategy-on-covid-19-continues-to-rely-on-miracles/ar-BB18ep29

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Aug 21, 20205 yr

Experts

Modena vaccine study has only enrolled ~ 5,000 volunteers, far short of 30,000 needed for Stage 3 study to prove effectiveness.

Aug 21, 20205 yr

49 minutes ago, NRSKarenRN said:
Modena vaccine study has only enrolled ~ 5,000 volunteers, far short of 30,000 needed for Stage 3 study to prove effectiveness.

I haven't read that. I've read that they are paying volunteers up to $1000 to participate. Lots of people could use the money.

Aug 21, 20205 yr

Experts

CNN 8/10/2020

Moderna's clinical trial numbers show there's 'no way' Trump can have a vaccine by Election Day

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Contrary to his predictions, President Trump won't have a coronavirus vaccine ready by Election Day, vaccine experts tell CNN after reviewing data from Moderna, the first company to begin its Phase 3 clinical trials of a coronavirus vaccine in the United States.
"There's no way. There's just no way," said Dr. Peter Hotez, a vaccinologist at Baylor College of Medicine and a CNN medical analyst.
CNN obtained part of an email Moderna sent on Friday to the principal investigators of its vaccine trials. It says 4,536 study subjects have enrolled in the trial.
The trial started the morning of July 27 and intends to enroll 30,000 study subjects. The company has said it's "on track to complete enrollment in September."...
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/10/health/covid-vaccine-election-moderna-clinical-trials/index.html

Washington Post 7/27/2020

Two coronavirus vaccines begin the last phase of testing: 30,000-person trials

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...Statisticians have been crunching the numbers to predict how many infections would need to occur in the study population to gauge the vaccine’s effectiveness. To show the Moderna vaccine is 60 percent effective, Fauci said, there would need to be about 150 infections among the 30,000 participants.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/07/27/moderna-nih-launch-30000-person-trial-coronavirus-vaccine/

Since trial volunteers will receive two intramuscular injections approximately 28 days apart and be observed for side effects afterwards for up to one year, those enrolling in the study in September will not be getting 2nd injection until October, thus not minimal time for later side effects + effectiveness be know prior to Nov 3rd election. Add to the mix, online antivac contingent deriding vaccine, difficult to get enough variety etnicities, ages, and male/female balance to make objective obervation of vaccine effectiveness.

Aug 21, 20205 yr

I'm so hopeful that there will be an effective vaccine widely available by next Summer...it's a prayer, really, for me.

Aug 22, 20205 yr

Well personally I also hope that the virus is on the way out and we find a vaccine. Not sure why this is a problem except of course that Trump said it.

Obama/Biden talked about hope and change. The change they were talking about was fundamentally changing America, looks like the radical left is still trying to do just that.

If you are not sure what that means just look at Dem run cities that continue to riot, burn, loot, and attack harass people for no reason and with very little resistance from the Dem "leadership" (Portland is the poster child but also others).

I hope that this changes.

Aug 22, 20205 yr

1 hour ago, Daisy4RN said:
Well personally I also hope that the virus is on the way out and we find a vaccine. Not sure why this is a problem except of course that Trump said it.
Obama/Biden talked about hope and change. The change they were talking about was fundamentally changing America, looks like the radical left is still trying to do just that.
If you are not sure what that means just look at Dem run cities that continue to riot, burn, loot, and attack harass people for no reason and with very little resistance from the Dem "leadership" (Portland is the poster child but also others).
I hope that this changes.

Why exactly is Trump a victim in this conversation?

Aug 22, 20205 yr

Experts

Looks like Donald saw CNN article re lack vaccine volunteers.... Even many AN nurses have posted they won't get vaccine/participate in trials as "too quick" production concerned about vaccine SAFETY as most new vaccines take several years to develop.

Aug 22, 20205 yr

4 hours ago, NRSKarenRN said:
Looks like Donald saw CNN article re lack vaccine volunteers.... Even many AN nurses have posted they won't get vaccine/participate in trials as "too quick" production concerned about vaccine SAFETY as most new vaccines take several years to develop.

President Preposterous must be unaware that one of the favorite Russian bot/troll flames to fan are antivaxx fears. They get lots of Trump's voting base all riled up with fear and suspicion on a regular basis.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/anti-vax-movement-russian-trolls-fueled-anti-vaccination-debate-in-us-by-spreading-misinformation-Twitter-study/

Aug 22, 20205 yr

16 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:
Why exactly is Trump a victim in this conversation?

You know who the victims are? The innocent people getting killed, harrassed, injured, losing their property and livelihoods bc of the continued lock downs and bc the Dems continue to do nothing about the riots in their Dem run cities!

I think Trump can handle himself and has plenty of resources. Not so for the innocent people losing everything bc of the Dems.

Aug 22, 20205 yr

1 hour ago, Daisy4RN said:
You know who the victims are? The innocent people getting killed, harrassed, injured, losing their property and livelihoods bc of the continued lock downs and bc the Dems continue to do nothing about the riots in their Dem run cities!
I think Trump can handle himself and has plenty of resources. Not so for the innocent people losing everything bc of the Dems.

Trump is currently presiding over a country struggling to mitigate a pandemic because of HIS failure of leadership and lack of clear messaging at the outset of the emergency. His incompetence continues to hamper testing and the support that state public health departments need.

Trump fans the flames of race tension on a routine basis...he seems to want to create the "American carnage" that he spoke about a few years back. Trump was the loudest voice calling black protestors names and telling his faithful fans that the protests were REALLY about hating their country and their flag and their anthem. Trump stirs crap pots everyday to keep the country divided and unable to reach concensus...he figures he will win with the minority vote if that vote is stable and everything else is divided. He will suppress the mailed vote. He will use intimidating at the polls. He will try to tamper with any election process in his reach. He will use foreign tools and techniques to force the election in his favor.

Yeah, he has lots of resources. The most valuable might be a complicit Senate.

Aug 23, 20205 yr

@Daisy4RN it's important to remember that the violence and rioting can't all be placed at the feet of liberals. At least not if one is attempting to have a measured view of what is happening and what has been promised and mentioned before. A race based civil war has long been a day dream of the racist far right.

Portland police stand by as Proud Boys and far-right militias flash guns and brawl with antifa counterprotesters
By Katie Shepherd

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/08/22/portland-police-far-right-protest/

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2020/06/02/riots-white-supremacy-and-accelerationism/

Aug 25, 20205 yr

The only ones running around rioting, destroying property, statues, harassing people, injuring and killing people are Antifa and BLM.

Most recent example being Kenosha WI. With zero knowledge of the situation BLM descended on this city and destroyed it along with injuring at least 1 LEO (brick to the head knocking him unconscious). And of course, the Dem "leadership" (mayor and Gov) made excuses for these criminal thugs.

Dem run cities have been run into the ground for years but it is now even worse. Vote for Biden and this is what we will get for the country.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/liberal-cities-radical-mayhem-11591140986

https://townhall.com/columnists/kevinmccullough/2019/07/28/why-do-democrats-run-all-of-the-dangerous-and-rodent-infested-cities-n2550734

https://www.foxnews.com/us/seattle-police-chief-carmen-best-resignation-lack-of-respect

https://thefederalist.com/2020/07/07/shootings-and-killings-surge-in-democrat-run-cities-across-the-country

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/how-decades-of-democratic-rule-ruined-some-of-our-finest-cities

Just exactly who do you think is gonna pay for all this, go ahead guess!

https://www.foxnews.com/us/costs-protests-financial-toll-cash-strapped-us-cities

The police are "standing down" because they have been told to do so by their Dem leadership.

If the "racist far right" have been trying to start a racial civil war they haven't been very successful, perhaps they need advise from BLM.

Voting for Biden is voting for chaos for the Country. Cutting police budgets while allowing rioting, good plan.