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Highest PEEP you've seen?

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Saw this, this week at work: twenty-FOUR of PEEP. WOW!!! 2. 4. Blew my mind!

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I saw a PEEP of 20 or 25 when a post op heart was bleeding. However, some really bad ARDS can get up there like yours. When it's so high like that they get so much Barotrauma. Those poor lungs =\

I've seen 15 in a baby...24, yikes!

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Peep of 40
Ahh! ARDS?

Don't blow a bleb. What were the other settings. I would think that if you're that high in peep, it's time to try something else. (if there is something else)

In the case of peep of 40 I mentioned the patient was over 800lbs. And severely septic. Unfortunately despite our efforts did not make it (but did for 5 or 6 days with that 40 of peep and 100% fi02) patient was also on 200 of neo .07 vasopressin 60 to 80 of norepi and 80 to 100mcg/min epi

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Jeeeezzz those are some crazy numbers right there. The 24 of PEEP was also a large pt- 400lbs- I've never thought of weight factoring into amount of PEEP required but I guess it makes sense that it could. Hmm.

Per ARDSnet protocol you can use a PEEP of 24 cmH2O. Anybody who has worked the ICUs for 20+ years might remember PEEPs of 50 or more in trauma patients.

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