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Future of LPN?

Hi all,

I am currently enrolled in a course to complete my cna. I will work as a cna for a few years while saving up to get my lpn. I don't plan on getting my rn. Will I be okay in the future? There's so much talk of lpn's being phased out. Right now, I am tired of school. I have a bachelor's degree in a subject that hasn't helped me secure a job. I just want to work at something interesting, make a liveable salary, and relax. Lpn with no intention of getting rn. I may change my mind later but right now this is what I want to do.

Also, I will need to work once I have enough money to pay for my lpn program. Can you work part time as a cna while attending school. How many hours do they offer part time cnas usually.

Thanks to everyone in advance.

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I think "Freetopayattention" has a point. I work with some really good LPN's, and I can't tell the difference between them and the RN's I work with, but I think they should try and get their RN licence. I think sooner or later they will change the rules, and maybe do away with the LPN's. In the UK, there used to be "enrolled nurses" and they were the equivalent to American LPN's, but they were done away with about 10-15 years ago. I think there are some still working in some hospitals, but there is no new training. Also, I think Canada now requires their RN's to have BSN's, and all their LPN's to have the equivalent of an ADN. Maybe America will do the same in the very near future.

I don't understand. If ANA is phasing out LVN/LPNs then why do LVN/LPN programs and schools exist? I'm here from California and it seems like there there are more and more LVN schools opening up here.

Some places I've witnessed where LPN/LVNs are no longer needed or responsibilites are being taken away....

1. Kaiser Permanente hospitals here in CA have completely phased out LVN/LPNs from their clinics.

2. Medical Technicians are dispensing medications at some SNF and LTC facililites instead of LPN/LVNs.

3. Doctor's offices and clinics are using Medical Assistants instead of LPN/LVNs.

I do see many jobs posted in SNF, LTC, and Home Care but, every posting requires at least year of experience. It is very frustrating for new graduates of LPN/LVN programs.

LPN's are most certainly not going anywhere. In fact I heard that due to the new health care bill LPN's will be in greater demand! For a bunch of reasons, but mainly because it will be better for the wallets and coordination of the insurance comapanies and increased number paitents ect, ect, ect....Starting this Aprill 2011 the NCLEX exam will not only change its format, but will be harder to pass! There will be a larger demand for LPN's to care for more critical/acute patients and care! That is why they are raising the bar on the passing score!

We need to deal with the facts. "I think" and "I heard" don't always qualify as fact.

I know that at my hospital I am the only full-time LPN on the acute care unit. That's down from 9 LPN's three years ago. I pay dues to a labor union (whether I am being represented is debatable). The RN's are not unionized but the term "RN" is actually mentioned in our contract! The elimination of LPN's here has been insidious--a little at a time.

You LPN's who have years of experience-how have things changed where you work? Did any of you start out in ER or ICU but can no longer work there? Did you suddenly get "dumber"?

I know where I work I see LPN's just accepting whatever is pushed on them with the usual complaining to co-workers or sometimes quitting. And there are those who recieved "mystery" money to attend an expensive non-traditional BSN program. I do not say that to reflect badly on an LPN or anyone who wants to further their education. It's just a little unclear where the reimbursement money came from. The union president says he don't know.

Time will tell.

You can work FULLTIME as a CNA in LVN school. Magic words: HOME HEALTH!

You can work nights and usually do your homework/study alllllll nighgt long! Also.. Home Health has great opportunities for LVNs and most likely ALWAYS will. I have only been an LVN for 1.5 years, I am a pediatric hoome health nurse and I make more than some new grad RNs do. You'll be fine.

However... Aim high! Why not go for your RN???

Nursing is run state by state just like marriage and drivers license and all those other professions that require a license. So I would think that the ANA cannot declare the "phasing out". If it was to ever happen each state would decide. I think that makes sense.

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However... Aim high! Why not go for your RN???
Not everyone wants or needs an RN license to attain their career goals.

OP, Ask about funds for help to get your LPN license.

When I asked for financial help for LPN schooling there was none, but there was $1,800 per semester for RN schooling (and signing a contract to work for a specified time).

I wish you the best.

very well said,I'm a new LPN and yes it has been hard but I have found Jobs here in Maryland and the pay is pretty good. They are not going to phase out LPNs,even my job at Kaiser Permanente has that rumor and we are also UNION and it has been confirmed by the MBON that isn't going to happen. I'm currently enrolled in a RN program.

For as long as I can remember there has been talk of phasing out LPN's - I always thought that would never happen, but times have changed in the last 5 years. The areas of nursing that use LPN's has definitely narrowed. The local hospital in my area relocated all of their LPN's to the LTC facilities and Dr's office jobs - some had been at the hospital for 3 decades. My advice to someone looking at nursing school today would be to go for the RN. I can't even believe I said that - times have changed.

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In my area it's much harder than it used to be to get a job in an acute care hospital than it was. LPNs are hired in LTC?SNF more now, and as someone mentioned private duty nursing for home health patients.

The ANA has no direct control of any laws or boards of nursing. They certainly have an agenda, and they really don't care much for LPNs or even ADNs but they are restricted to their very active lobbying and PR efforts.

For as long as I can remember there has been talk of phasing out LPN's - I always thought that would never happen, but times have changed in the last 5 years. The areas of nursing that use LPN's has definitely narrowed. The local hospital in my area relocated all of their LPN's to the LTC facilities and Dr's office jobs - some had been at the hospital for 3 decades. My advice to someone looking at nursing school today would be to go for the RN. I can't even believe I said that - times have changed.

Does your state have a patient/nurse ratio law? If not, how is it legal to do this? I don't think LPN's will be included in the nurse/patient ratio battle will they?

Also, the more LPN's that are removed from acute care, ICU etc, the easier the organizing will be when the time comes...and it will come. I just urge all RN's to pay attention to what's going on. Unions can be a good thing or a very bad thing!

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