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Could someone please tell me the difference between mental health concepts and mental

Please could someone explain this, i would be so grateful , i have searched the internet for this and cannot find an answer

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Sorry i meant to say the difference between mental health concepts and mental health nursing theory , any advice, I would be grateful

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Is this for homework? I ask because we have a nursing student assistance forum that may be of interest to you :)

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Is this for homework? I ask because we have a nursing student assistance forum that may be of interest to you :)

Thank you and no its not for homework , it was to do with my training. A long story which is sorted out hopefully but would still want to know

That's an insignificant question with a philosophical answer that you'll have to reread several times to understand. Nursing is a psychosocial discipline that ascribes heavily to psychology and to a lesser degree sociology. Most mental health theories in nursing are adopted from psychology and throw in old Hildegard. When I took nursing theory for grad school (gag!) we were told to pull in any theories we wanted from the allied health fields, medicine, and the psychosocial disciplines.

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That's an insignificant question with a philosophical answer that you'll have to reread several times to understand. Nursing is a psychosocial discipline that ascribes heavily to psychology and to a lesser degree sociology. Most mental health theories in nursing are adopted from psychology and throw in old Hildegard. When I took nursing theory for grad school (gag!) we were told to pull in any theories we wanted from the allied health fields, medicine, and the psychosocial disciplines.

Thank you for your philosophical answer! Ok this is what i did

Sociology

Psychology

Dementia

Mental health that covered

Schizophrenia, bi polar and depression, this was taught solid and full time in a classroom and took 160 hours! Cgfns said that my school put this under mental health concepts , therefore did not account me many theory hours in mental health theory! I phoned my college and said this and they said mental health theory and mental health concept are the same !

I do understand what your saying to a degree, but i was told that mental health ascribes to the medical model and adds psychology as an addition like CBT

If you are trying to gain licensure as an IEN it doesn't matter what anyone but the BoN & CGFNS consider as psych/mental health nursing. Very few have been successful in appealing these decisions

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And ps love the way you sound like Joe Black! You should watch that movie lol , hope you light hearted enough to take that as a joke! :)

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If you are trying to gain licensure as an IEN it doesn't matter what anyone but the BoN & CGFNS consider as psych/mental health nursing. Very few have been successful in appealing these decisions

I have not been refused! I did 144 hours over the requirement in clinicals alone in mental health and the rest i was at very least double the requirements but mostly 4x the requirements

Then wait for the BoN CGFNS is not a final determination BoN have overridden CGFNS before b

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I phoned the BON, they did not think there would be an issue :) i wanted to know for my own sake :)

Thank you for your philosophical answer! Ok this is what i did

Sociology

Psychology

Dementia

Mental health that covered

Schizophrenia, bi polar and depression, this was taught solid and full time in a classroom and took 160 hours! Cgfns said that my school put this under mental health concepts , therefore did not account me many theory hours in mental health theory! I phoned my college and said this and they said mental health theory and mental health concept are the same !

I do understand what your saying to a degree, but i was told that mental health ascribes to the medical model and adds psychology as an addition like CBT

Well, psych nurses aren't really medical. They're still nursing which is psychosocial. A RN, for example, working in a psych unit would give meds, yes, but still be primarily concerned with managing the milieu, i.e. the psychosocial/environmental stuff.

The advanced practice registered nurses, such as the psychiatric mental health nurse practitioners, would largely follow a medical model. In that instance, let's say they have a new patient. They'll evaluate them with likely an observational sort of physical exam with no auscultating, palpating, etc., a review of systems, labs such as CBC, CMP, TSH, et al, assess with a DSM style of approach and then prescribe pharmacotherapy and potentially prescribe or recommend psychotherapy.

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Well, psych nurses aren't really medical. They're still nursing which is psychosocial. A RN, for example, working in a psych unit would give meds, yes, but still be primarily concerned with managing the milieu, i.e. the psychosocial/environmental stuff.

The advanced practice registered nurses, such as the psychiatric mental health nurse practitioners, would largely follow a medical model. In that instance, let's say they have a new patient. They'll evaluate them with likely an observational sort of physical exam with no auscultating, palpating, etc., a review of systems, labs such as CBC, CMP, TSH, et al, assess with a DSM style of approach and then prescribe pharmacotherapy and potentially prescribe or recommend psychotherapy.

Thank you for clearing that up, i am from the UK, and practice obviously has some differences! Here it is largely ascribed to the medical model, mental health continuum , psychology is used , especially CBT. I love karl rogers theorists and Maslow, i have reservations about Freud , even tho he was a genius! I like Eric erikson and stages of development! Thanks for your response , very helpful .

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