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Compassionate Combat

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allnurses is participating in the virtual AACN -NTI conference this week.  We have enjoyed meeting some of our members in person as we attended the conference every year for more than a decade. But COVID got in the way.  Last year the conference was canceled.  This year is the first year AACN has hosted a virtual conference,  While it doesn't provide quite the exhilarating experience as coming together in person, it is great to connect in this way.

Dr. Anthony Fauci was the featured speaker at yesterday's Super Session.  He had plenty of words of admiration and appreciation for nurses as well as words of wisdom and hope for the future.

There is usually a Nurses Out on Wednesdays, but tonight it will be Nurses Night In with Keith Urban.  Too bad this is not in person...

One of the songs that was shared with the attendees is "Compassionate Combat".  I want to share this with all of you.  We are in this together as we continue to fight the war... 

Thank you for your heroic efforts that are "all in the day of a nurse".

 

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11 hours ago, mtlrn said:

Proud Army Brat here who worked on a covid unit through the surge. I showed up to work, got paid well and did my job. I went home at the end of 12 hrs to my family, a warm dry bed, anything for dinner I wanted and only had to do this 2-3 times a week. Doesnt sound anywhere ***** close to combat guys. Vets do the hard *** that allow us to live our soft, free, comfortable lives and as the BS from this last year has shown, most americans are not worthy of their protection. 

Do you think your professional covid experience is representative of the overall experience? 

3600 health care workers died in 2020 from covid.  

3600 died out of 14.7 million healthcare workers. So yes I think my covid experience was statistically representative. 

 

3 hours ago, mtlrn said:

3600 died out of 14.7 million healthcare workers. So yes I think my covid experience was statistically representative. 

 

How many active duty military were killed in military endeavors in 2020? We know that some died from COVID19. Most people who choose to work in healthcare don't expect that it might kill them...it's not like volunteering for the military.  You can appreciate that, right? 

Or is it necessary to minimize the PTSD of other professions for some reason? 

 

Last year WAS tough for a lot of people but I never had the taliban shoooting at me while I was starting an IV and I didn't have to worry about setting off an IED on the way home from work.  

2021 was the first time many americans had to deal with the uncertainty that many in the world feel everyday of their lives.  

But hey were getting a ticker tape parade in new york city next month so yay for us?

28 minutes ago, mtlrn said:

Last year WAS tough for a lot of people but I never had the taliban shoooting at me while I was starting an IV and I didn't have to worry about setting off an IED on the way home from work.  

2021 was the first time many americans had to deal with the uncertainty that many in the world feel everyday of their lives.  

But hey were getting a ticker tape parade in new york city next month so yay for us?

Yeah.  Yay for us.

Health care workers get their trauma minimized because the military feel so unappreciated for their sacrifices that seem to have zero relevance to American life. That's what it seems like to me.  

Poor Americans deal with uncertainty regularly.  It's personal sacrifice that was such a stretch for so many Americans. 

I will nominate you for a congressional medal of honor for hanging that bag of convo plasma.....so brave ??‍♀️

8 minutes ago, mtlrn said:

I will nominate you for a congressional medal of honor for hanging that bag of convo plasma.....so brave ??‍♀️

No thanks. 

I'll bow before your superior trauma. 

I realize that you may not know since what the military does is "irrelevant" to american life...an army brat is servicemember's kid.  I not a vet, just a nurse with some perspective 

2 hours ago, mtlrn said:

I realize that you may not know since what the military does is "irrelevant" to american life...an army brat is servicemember's kid.  I not a vet, just a nurse with some perspective 

LOL

Oh, I understand what an army brat is.  That's why I refuse your nomination for an award, you clearly deserve it more. Your choice for personal sacrifice to the military will be honored by me.  I just don't understand why people associated with the military feel that acknowledging the battle that healthcare engaged with covid somehow minimizes the roll of the military in war.

No matter.  Healthcare workers were essential and they put their lives on the line for the health of the country.  3600 of them will not return to work and their grieving families won't receive a death benefit for their selfless efforts. Many people saw suffering and death on a level that they will never see again in their careers and their post traumatic trauma is likely to be ignored, as is the tendency in the civilian world.  

 

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14 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

3600 health care workers died in 2020 from covid.  

 

13 hours ago, mtlrn said:

3600 died out of 14.7 million healthcare workers. So yes I think my covid experience was statistically representative. 

"Four U.S. service members were killed during hostilities and four others died in noncombat incidents in Iraq and Syria in 2020 as America wound down its role in the fight against the Islamic State group.

The eight deaths last year bring to 99 the number of American troops who have died while taking part in the U.S.-led coalition battling ISIS since it began a little over six years ago."

https://www.stripes.com/news/middle-east/remembering-us-troops-who-died-in-iraq-and-syria-in-2020-1.657100

 

3600 healthcare workers versus 8 service personnel seems fairly one sided. Do you want to rethink your posting mtlrn?

Oh, and for completeness I also know what an army brat is.

 

44 minutes ago, GrumpyRN said:

"Four U.S. service members were killed during hostilities and four others died in noncombat incidents in Iraq and Syria in 2020 as America wound down its role in the fight against the Islamic State group.

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Service connected deaths include more than those that occur in combat.

Between Memorial Day 2020 and 2021, 18 services members died supporting operations in the Middle East.  In July of 2020, eight Marines and a Navy hospital corpsman lost their lives in an amphibious vehicle accident.  And last week, a recruit at MCRD Parris Island died during training event.  And, if one were to follow any of the military oriented sites, there have been other active duty deaths as well, that haven't made the national news cycle.

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33 minutes ago, chare said:

Service connected deaths include more than those that occur in combat.

Between Memorial Day 2020 and 2021, 18 services members died supporting operations in the Middle East.  In July of 2020, eight Marines and a Navy hospital corpsman lost their lives in an amphibious vehicle accident.  And last week, a recruit at MCRD Parris Island died during training event.  And, if one were to follow any of the military oriented sites, there have been other active duty deaths as well, that haven't made the national news cycle.

You've added 26 onto the total I gave for 2020 and it's still an awful lot less than 3600. 34 < 3600. How many deaths occurred in the US from car accidents and just general accidents in just one month? Life is dangerous sometimes. You are using a false equivalence. 

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