I traditionally have a thread heading to the election, here we go.

Get out the popcorn for this one.

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is expected to formally announce next week he is running for president in 2024, NBC News reported Thursday, citing two sources familiar with the matter.

The governor's official entry into the Republican primary field will put him head-to-head with former President Donald Trump, the party's current frontrunner for the nomination. Trump has already spent months treating DeSantis as his primary campaign rival, thrashing him with torrents of criticism over his gubernatorial record, his political skills and his personality.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/18/desantis-plans-to-officially-announce-presidential-run-next-week.html

Tweety said:

It's not a coincidence and while I don't think it's "weaponized government" it definitely is targeted.  But like I said to those here that said Trump was targeted in New York, it doesn't matter because guilty is guilty.  I say the same here.  Any wrong doing targeted or not is wrong.  The innocent have nothing to worry about.

But the article may be correct, in that look how it benefited Trump.  People even in these threads weren't necessarily interested that Trump was guilty of anything but that he was a victim.  

The innocent only have to worry about the spin and the lies which are covered by media as if they have value or factual basis.  

Tweety said:

It's not a coincidence and while I don't think it's "weaponized government" it definitely is targeted.  But like I said to those here that said Trump was targeted in New York, it doesn't matter because guilty is guilty.  I say the same here.  Any wrong doing targeted or not is wrong.  The innocent have nothing to worry about.

But the article may be correct, in that look how it benefited Trump.  People even in these threads weren't necessarily interested that Trump was guilty of anything but that he was a victim.  

What do you suppose they think that Governor Walz has to do with it?  

subee said:

And that's how bad Trump is.  Wow.  Now if we can get the Bush family to come out and speak about what's already on their minds,  I'd sleep better.

This means nothing if she does not win the electoral college.

luv2 said:

This means nothing if she does not win the electoral college.

Are you identifying the weak point that will, once again, be targeted by the fascists in their efforts to elevate Trump?  Maybe we should eliminate that EC vote.  

toomuchbaloney said:

Are you identifying the weak point that will, once again, be targeted by the fascists in their efforts to elevate Trump?  Maybe we should eliminate that EC vote.  

Are you saying that the Electoral College, that's part of our constitution is fascist?  Should we "terminate it"?. 

luv2 said:

This means nothing if she does not win the electoral college.

Yep, that's how we elect a President 101.  The winner with the most electoral college votes becomes President.  Not sure why this has to be noted. 

toomuchbaloney said:

What do you suppose they think that Governor Walz has to do with it?  

Not sure but they are digging in several areas.  Again, if he has nothing to hide he can be transparent with the documents they are requesting in how he handled the situation.  Who knows if the smoking gun will be found.  I think they might be trying to cast a shadow of a doubt.

Anyway, digging deep for dirt is what the opposite side and the media tries to do.  

 "Some Republicans worry the investigations will backfire politically and make Walz and Harris look like martyrs, Axios previously reported.".  I didn't look up the previously reported article but whoever "some Republicans" are have a point.  As the public have gotten to know Walz, his poop doesn't stink to them and he's been an asset to the ticket.

Crusades said:

Are you saying that the Electoral College, that's part of our constitution is fascist?  Should we "terminate it"?. 

I can help you if that's how you interpreted my words. 

For the record, your candidate is the person who muses about terminating inconvenient parts of the constitution. Everyone knows that you know this.  I wonder if you think it's clever to try to project Trump's un-American nonsense onto others.  It's certainly not an example of an attempt at meaningful discussion and is disingenuous as heck.  

Tweety said:

Not sure but they are digging in several areas.  Again, if he has nothing to hide he can be transparent with the documents they are requesting in how he handled the situation.  Who knows if the smoking gun will be found.  I think they might be trying to cast a shadow of a doubt.

Anyway, digging deep for dirt is what the opposite side and the media tries to do.  

 "Some Republicans worry the investigations will backfire politically and make Walz and Harris look like martyrs, Axios previously reported.".  I didn't look up the previously reported article but whoever "some Republicans" are have a point.  As the public have gotten to know Walz, his poop doesn't stink to them and he's been an asset to the ticket.

Digging political dirt is not what Congress is supposed to do but that is their primary objective in the era of Trump.  

luv2 said:

This means nothing if she does not win the electoral college.

Isn't that true for EVERY election?  Not sure what endorsements have to do with the EC.  It would certainly add too the list of the Republicans who are voting for Anyone But Trump.  This time it's Harris.

toomuchbaloney said:

I can help you if that's how you interpreted my words. 

For the record, your candidate is the person who muses about terminating inconvenient parts of the constitution. Everyone knows that you know this.  I wonder if you think it's clever to try to project Trump's un-American nonsense onto others.  It's certainly not an example of an attempt at meaningful discussion and is disingenuous as heck.  

Digging political dirt is not what Congress is supposed to do but that is their primary objective in the era of Trump.  

Inconvenient parts of the constitution? Like how the dems think about the electoral college?  LOL

"My candidate " can't help how you and others interpret and distorted his words". 

Right. Until the "era of Trump" congress never "dug up dirt" around an election because "they aren't supposed to". Are you serous? What? What? Is disingenuous now? 

Mkay.....looool 

Crusades said:

Inconvenient parts of the constitution? Like how the dems think about the electoral college?  LOL

"My candidate " can't help how you and others interpret and distorted his words". 

Right. Until the "era of Trump" congress never "dug up dirt" around an election because "they aren't supposed to". Are you serous? What? What? Is disingenuous now? 

Mkay.....looool 

No, not like that at all.  His exact words have been quoted for you before, which makes your remark interesting.  

Yes, Trump is your candidate.  He represents your values.  

Do you know what the purpose of the House of Representatives involves?  Hint; it's purpose is not to create political theater for a political party or agenda.  

I think you are young and naive. 

 

Crusades said:

Inconvenient parts of the constitution? Like how the dems think about the electoral college?  LOL

"My candidate " can't help how you and others interpret and distorted his words". 

Right. Until the "era of Trump" congress never "dug up dirt" around an election because "they aren't supposed to". Are you serous? What? What? Is disingenuous now? 

Mkay.....looool 

I don't see a connection between Trump's statement about the constitution and how the dems think about the electoral college.  Maybe you can elaborate on that deflection.  Except that maybe the EC has been "inconvenient" in that the popular vote didn't translate into an election victory.  

Anyway, I think what Trump said in the past is was TMB is referring to that he wanted to terminate parts of the constitution to overturn the election results that he lost.  Perhaps it was a bit blown up. 

Trump said "A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,"

The implication is that the current system allowed for this massive fraud, which he still hasn't been able to prove. 

Trump later said:  

"The Fake News is actually trying to convince the American People that I said I wanted to 'terminate' the Constitution. This is simply more DISINFORMATION & LIES, just like RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA, and all of their other HOAXES & SCAMS,” 

It is not the job of Congress to dig up dirt.  They can investigate what they think might be wrong doing and perhaps that's a grey area.  Even you can admit their inquiries into Minnesota politics is interesting.