Stop Foreign Nurses

Yes it probably would to those were discussing but too bad it is on everyones mind and it needs to come out of the shadows.

We need a powerful National labor Union of RN/LPN's and then we will as a politically powerful group determine the policy's of healthcare through one national voice.

Foreign Nurses coming to work in our Health Care facilities are the most serious threat to our professional security. They threaten our earning potential as well as are pushing us out of the Long Term Care environment. Kindred Healthcare is one of the biggest offenders. What are your views on this most serious matter now facing our profession.

You seem to be insecured and feel threatened by forriegn nurses. If I were you, I would rather focus on being the best nurse I can be. The so call LTC facilities look for good nurses to hire and do not care where they come from, so get a life and stop c/o about foreign nurse!

You seem to be insecured and feel threatened by forriegn nurses. If I were you, I would rather focus on being the best nurse I can be. The so call LTC facilities look for good nurses to hire and do not care where they come from, so get a life and stop c/o about foreign nurse!

me thinks you have missed his point, and i doubt you have read karen's additions to this thread....

The comment that Kindred is the worst offender? As a Kindred employee in both a LTC and an LTAC, I have to say I have only worked with ONE foreign nurse, and she is awesome. Not to mention, she is no longer "foreign" to me, she is in the process of naturalization, so she will be just as American as you and I.

see http://www.hamill-law.com/kindred_lawsuit.html

http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2006/02/22/nurses_aide_gets_suspended_sentence_for_abuse/

Foreign Nurses coming to work in our Health Care facilities are the most serious threat to our professional security. They threaten our earning potential as well as are pushing us out of the Long Term Care environment. Kindred Healthcare is one of the biggest offenders. What are your views on this most serious matter now facing our profession.

I am sure that when or if they do away with foreign nurses, you will find another group as a threat to your proffession.

It is nothing personal with them, it's just that I believe in protecting our profession. The shortage maintains our wages, supply and demand. Bring in cheaper alternatives and bring in lower wages and less job security.

This doesn't sound like a rational argument, but one of bigotry -- like stopping ANY foreign workers from entering the U.S. because "they" will take "our" jobs. Last time I checked, this country was built on the sweat AND blood of "foreigners" -- my family (German and Irish immigrants) included!

Additionally, there still continues to be a MAJOR nursing shortage, esp. in teaching and on med/surg units. Many of the "foreign" nurses with whom I work are incredibly skilled and caring, better than their "native" counterparts. I'm quite happy to know that my unit is fully staffed, and I don't have to worry about compromising patient safety because my hospital believed that they could hire "foreigners" for "cheap money."

That being said, they are not "cheaper alternatives." You're not talking about "foreigners" coming over to pick fruit for $2/day because no red-blooded American would "lower" themselves to this standard. In my hospital system, employees are paid on a tier system -- starting from no experience (as I was as a new grad) to X number of years. Someone from the Phillipines with no experience would be paid the same starting wage I was, just as someone from the Phillipines with 5 years of experience would be paid the same as another "native" RN with 5 years of experience.

I have to fall back on the bigotry again. It sounds like there's no logic to your argument other than plain old-fashioned bigotry.

It's sooo hard for me to believe the ignorance in some people's statements at times...

WTH?! :angryfire

see http://www.hamill-law.com/kindred_lawsuit.html

http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2006/02/22/nurses_aide_gets_suspended_sentence_for_abuse/

These cases allege abuse. Last time I checked my BON's listing of alleged abuse charges, the names appeared to come from EVERY category of the race catalogue -- not just "foreigners.

It is well known that some countries with corrupt institutions and governments have diploma mills. Documentation is provided and a fee is paid and training is provided to pass exams. Do some research on-line and elsewhere.

And those nurses are easily snatched up if they're incompetent in their work place! States BONs protect patients, not nurses.

What about the American nurses who have a great deal of training, experience, skill, etc. but are poor, unprofessional, demeaning, abusive nurses? The pendulum swings both ways!

Ranaazha, I agree with everything you have posted. Unfortunately, ignorance breeds lies. i don't think no amount of rational and educated thinking will change the OP's mind.

I don't have to defend myself. Besides you opinion will soon be in the minority once nurses are better educated on this.. This will be my last reply. Only interested in nurses that will listen.

What happened to asking our views on this matter? Doesn't that typically mean you want open dialogue -- not just responses from those who agree with you? Bah!

The issue I see with foreign people coming over to our country (at least with the hispanic population) is that some of them are bilingual and that is a big plus for them seeing as many who come here do not learn the language and our higher ups somehow think that we need to accomodate the non-english speakers. I see job ads now that require a person to be bilingual and it seems to me that they will have the upper hand being able to speak two languages. It may seem short sighted but a great deal of people I know will not learn spanish simply b/c this country is an english speaking one and anyone who comes here needs to learn english. Peace

Do you have any idea how many other countries accommodate English speakers when we're in THEIR country. Not only do they not EXPECT us to speak THEIR language in THEIR country, but they welcome the chance to communicate with us in a language that is FOREIGN to THEIR country. Let's see... I'll start with just about EVERY country in the EU, not to mention at least half of the middle East, and parts of Asia.

My gawd... When did America become so discriminatory to PEOPLE from OTHER countries -- the same people who's ancestors actually built (quite literally!) this country?

If you want to take aim at a company who's bypassing Americans for immigrants, then by all means, go ahead. Or, better yet, why not take aim at the President of YOUR country who's outsourced hundreds of thousands of AMERICAN jobs for "cheap labor" in OTHER countries?

Pay attention to where you're standing when you swing that pendulum.